poly's political compass

[Rufus T. Firefly]

-5.75 economic, -5.69 social. Leftist libertarian is no big surprise, but how I ended up farther to the left on economics is beyond me.

[gsmoove23]

Yeah, I could see why their would be a lot less authoritarians on an OT gaming forum.

I don't think the test is designed to get even results anyway. That being said it could very well be skewed, they only had glowing reviews on the web-site of course anyone search for some criticisms?

My experience in the US is that if you don't have a car your f****d, certainly if you're not in an urban area. I couldn't understand why the brits kept whining about it

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by gsmoove23

My experience in the US is that if you don't have a car your f****d, certainly if you're not in an urban area. I couldn't understand why the brits kept whining about it

Please explain what that means

[gsmoove23]

Perhaps another reason is people who find their marks close to Hitler and Stalin get highly upset and decide to forget the whole thing.

[gsmoove23]

I think, and if I'm mistaken I'm sure an armchair historian will be quick to put me right that awhile ago in US history the rail lobby lost out big to the auto industry lobby. So now we have nice wide roads that'll get ya anywhere and poor little struggling Amtrack. I am no expert on the matter though. I've always found it easier travelling intercity without a car to get on the stinkin bus then to take rail. That being said in New York City we have quite a good subway/metro(?) system.

In England and across Europe taking rail was a pleasant experience for me compared to busing it in the USA.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by gsmoove23
I think, and if I'm mistaken I'm sure an armchair historian will be quick to put me right that awhile ago in US history the rail lobby lost out big to the auto industry lobby. So now we have nice wide roads that'll get ya anywhere and poor little struggling Amtrack. I am no expert on the matter though. I've always found it easier travelling intercity without a car to get on the stinkin bus then to take rail. That being said in New York City we have quite a good subway/metro(?) system.

In England and across Europe taking rail was a pleasant experience for me compared to busing it in the USA.

Sorry I understand now.

We like to whine about things its a national obsession

Our roads are crap too, the entire transport system is ****ed. The problem is we only live on a little Island and if we want new roads or rail lines someone has to have their house knocked down

[gsmoove23]

Yes your roads are crap.

[Verto]

Economic Left/Right: 1.00
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 1.79

[OneFootInTheGrave]

I've voted left wing moderate while I should have put left wing libertarian
It wasn't extreme

anyway...

My score was

Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.56

accordingly Ken Livingstone is my politician or should it be

[Kontiki]

Apparently, eco: -3.25 and author: -2.97.

I've done that test before and have some problems with some of the questions, namely that they are either 1) stupid or 2) really open to interpretation. Two examples:

On environmental issues, thinking globally and acting locally is basically a good idea.
- I can't imagine anyone who would disagree with that, no matter what your political or social leanings are. It's a simple fact. How you implement such action may vary, but you can't be against the statement as it is.

One day, science may be able to cure homosexuality.
- Obviously, the key here is "cure", implying that homosexuality is some sort of disease. I personally don't believe that it is, but I wouldn't preclude science one day being able to come up with something (drug, etc.) that could change one's sexual orientation.

[gsmoove23]

I think you'll be suprised about what some people think on these subjects and thats the point of the survey. If you want to talk with people who think that homosexuality can be cured go over to the Miscellaneous off-topic forum. The thread title has something to do with goats in it.

[TheStinger]

Originally posted by Kontiki
Apparently, eco: -3.25 and author: -2.97.

I've done that test before and have some problems with some of the questions, namely that they are either 1) stupid or 2) really open to interpretation. Two examples:

On environmental issues, thinking globally and acting locally is basically a good idea.
- I can't imagine anyone who would disagree with that, no matter what your political or social leanings are. It's a simple fact. How you implement such action may vary, but you can't be against the statement as it is.

One day, science may be able to cure homosexuality.
- Obviously, the key here is "cure", implying that homosexuality is some sort of disease. I personally don't believe that it is, but I wouldn't preclude science one day being able to come up with something (drug, etc.) that could change one's sexual orientation.

Read the FAQ, it will explain why people might find some qustions offensive

[loinburger]

Dunno if this is the most updated version.

[KoalaBear33]

My Score is -6 and -6.26.. exactly where I think I am...

Of many similar programs that I've seen this is the best that I have found. What this does is to sort of seperate polics from economics. This is the right way to do it IMO. Every econopolitical system is a either a political, economic, or a mixed system. Seperating it creates less confusion. Here are some examples of what I mean:

capitalism: pure economic system
communism: mix of economics and politics
fascism: pure political system
religious fundamentalism: pure political system
anarchism: mix of economics and politics
socialism: mix of economics and politics

As you can see, most of thse things can be seperated. For example, if you are a capitalist you are on the right whereas a fascist is on the right too (in typical left/right categorization). But the two "rights" don't share anything in common.

If there is any fault, I think the system doesn't clearly seperate the religion vs science stance. It asks the relevant questions but it is lumped in with the rest. Perhaps a 3rd dimension may be useful.

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As far as the score being tilted in certain directions, I can't say that it is necessarily wrong (although it could be--who knows?). Don't forget that this is from a European point of view. Some of the politicians listed there have been changing their positions. People are dynamic. As well, people in different parts of the world view things differently. For example, Americans consider their Democratic party as liberal/left whereas Europeans/Candians won't. The US Democrats are in bed with corporations so there is no way they will be considered left by Europeans.

In addition, people who are authoratarian will never disclose their scores or will purposely lie. For example, a sexist who abuses say his wife always pretends to support equality of the sexes. Unfortunately their idea of equality is women staying at home and listening to men. Similarly, a fascist will claim to support equality of races. Of course, their notion is to have pure racial states, often claiming to accomplish it via peaceful means (eg. expulsions).

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On Neoliberalism...

Neo-liberalism refers to modern economics. It's truly sad that the right stole the world liberal. Anyway, it is supposed to refer to economic policies that are more "open". For instance, neo-liberalism would be in favour of selling off national assets, opening up the markets, floating the currency, etc. Traditional (capitalist) policies, on the ther hand, are partly in favour of protectionism, fixed currencies, etc.

KoalaBear33

[gsmoove23]

Great post loin burger. Ugh, I'm far on the bottom left, I suddenly feel so lonely.

I am a little skeptical about a website that only post glowing reviews on the opinions page.