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  • antiglobilization and crap.

    he was just demented.


    some years back a group of 20 year olds killed 2 women "in the name of satan"


    criminals are criminals the "cause" is not the "cause" in any way.

    demented people are just that, they dont need a reason and whatever "reason" they chose is of no importance in comparison with the fact that they are demented and killers.


    IMHO.

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    • Nah, considering the apolitical nature of the Finnish people I'd think he was just melancholic-suicidal and wanted to kill as many people as possible along with himself in order to "take revenge" on the society that had "neglected" him.

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      • What else do you think would be his motive for attacking a shopping mall BTW
        My 2 cents is that he was suicidical maniac who tried desperately to get attention for the only time in his life.
        Or at least that's the impression I got from his forum-talks and a crappy biography at HS.

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        • criminals are criminals the "cause" is not the "cause" in any way.
          He had no criminal background. Didn't use any alcohol nor drugs. He hadn't got even a parking fine.

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          • so?

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            • The anti-globalisation theory has not any evidence. The only thing that could point to it at this point is that he did it in a mall. The signature was interpreted wrong. It wasn't about anti-globalisation.

              They has been some suspection that maybe he didn't ment to kill himself at the process, considering he was laying down the bomb when it went off.
              Also he left no suicide notes.
              Police won't say if it had electronic detonator or simular, as in placing the bomb in there, walking away and blowing it up when safe from it's range. This would also back up why he didn't left any notes or anything behind.
              In da butt.
              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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              • After reading the papers, some Finnish discussions and about every other source of opinions available ad nauseam, I'm starting to feel disappointed. Is the Finnish people (and every other paranoid conspiracist) so stupid that they cannot recognize an introverted student bent on creating dangerous mixtures of commonly available chemicals, who perhaps just wanted to rid the world of himself or accidentally blew his newest unstable mixture up? In both cases, the young man was clearly not very stable since he wanted to experiment with his stuff in the middle on a busy shopping mall.

                No. They must blame islamists, the anti-globalization movement, the neo-Nazis, communists, the Internet or the music he was listening to. And all this with no clear or unclear evidence. They just cannot understand that those insane do not need any motives that can be understood by the sane. Perhaps he was motivated by the voice between his ears. Perhaps the neighbor's dog told him to do so.
                Wiio's First Law: Communication usually fails, except by accident.

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                • A left wing anti-capitalist feeling down about life and blowing up six other people at a shopping center is still driven by his hate of the free market if you ask me.

                  Not many terrorbombers are completely right in their mind. That doesn't explain away the underlying political reasons for the target they choose.

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                  • Yep. everything points to a sad depressed person. I'm not 100% sure if he meant to commit a suicide or perhaps survive and live another day to make some more stuff.
                    In da butt.
                    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
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                    • How do you know he was left wing anti-capitalist?
                      In da butt.
                      "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                      THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                      "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                      • I think the best so called motive is that he was dumped by his girlfriend recently. Maybe he wanted to do something "to show them". The anti-capitalist rumors are, IMHO, very far-fetched. If he had wanted to bomb McDonalds he could have done it perfectly well without killing himself. Also, most anti-capitalist acts have been done without harming other people. Even a raging lunatic would understand that a McDonalds bombing would backfire if you kill innocent people doing it.

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                        • Originally posted by Pekka
                          The anti-globalisation theory has not any evidence. The only thing that could point to it at this point is that he did it in a mall
                          The fact that he bombed a mall was what led me to predict it was anti-globalization inspired even before it was mentioned by anyone else. It remains the strongest indication for this theory. It's like adding two and two together.

                          That said, it may be difficult to prove it for certain, since we can't ask the loser himself.

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                          • winston, not really. he is just a loonie.
                            you should be glad he's just a loonie because "far right" loonies by far outpass left wing loonies.

                            but they have their own party: "the loonies"

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                            • Yep, that would be one point for your theory. It remains the only one however.. at least for now.
                              It could of been just random pick, or chosen target, but not thinking it as capitalist ground..
                              But I'm sure we will have new info soon about this, and we'll see then how it could be..
                              I'm not ruling it out though.
                              In da butt.
                              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                              THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                              "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                              • Yes, it'll be interesting to see what the police comes up with.

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