Bomb in Finnish shopping centre - 7 dead and ~80 injured

[Pekka]

I should make a t-shirt saying 'the internet made me do it'. It's crap. Crazy people are everywhere, we can't limit freedom of speech etc because of them.

btw. I hope that teenage who put the info about his parents, address etc is feeling great about himself now that they have recieved death threats. I hope he feels smart and cool. I hope he won't learn thing called responsibility. ****ing idiot.

[Winston]

Is the media as a whole really blaming anything or anybody at this stage? Aren't they more in the proces of looking for possible explanations, including factors that enabled him to commit this attack?

[Pekka]

THe media is blaming internet and all that. The media is blaming indirectly that guy who is now held by the police.

The police has not established any motives etc, the media has made it clear it was the internet. The minister of interior is now thinking what we can do about the internet and people talking in there.
It is NOT discussed that he was mentally ill, and that it might be a good idea to take care of these people.
They want to limit internet and shut down pages and check out what people are talking, but they don't want to put their money on treating ill people.

[DinoDoc]

Why all the hysteria about the internet? I was under the impression that Finland was one of the most wired countries in Europe if not the world.

[Kassiopeia]

btw. I hope that teenage who put the info about his parents, address etc is feeling great about himself now that they have recieved death threats. I hope he feels smart and cool. I hope he won't learn thing called responsibility. ****ing idiot.

The only idiots are the ones who think that someone hellbent on vengeance couldn't have find out this information by themselves. It's public information, and so far there's no way to block it.

Is the media as a whole really blaming anything or anybody at this stage?

I can feel the conservatives preparing all those editorials declaring internet a bad thing (tm).

[Kassiopeia]

I was under the impression that Finland was one of the most wired countries in Europe if not the world.

Maybe we are, but that doesn't mean (stupid) people won't diss it from the left and the right (not politically speaking, just metaphorically) in the media. It's already starting, mainly by tabloids but starting nevertheless. Stupid people are numerous in Finland, unfortunately.

[Pekka]

Kassi, yes it's public information, but is it cool to put it on a page that has nothing else, and then promote it all over internet? It's not illegal, I'm just saying he could think before doing it, what's his purpose there? Why make it easier?

[Winston]

Ah yes, the conservatives. They're always at fault, one way or the other.

[DinoDoc]

But it's the dirty Finns that steal the avatars.

[Pekka]

I remember when wtc happened, and there were lots of smart people in Finland going 'yeahhh that's a horrible thing, but now they are limiting their freedoms in fear, stupid people'.. hmm. If an attack like that would happen here, the same people would want soldiers on the streets forever and kill everyone they don't know. We are free, let's stay that way and put those freedom limiters on a plane to china. They like the internet and other stuff too there better.

[Kassiopeia]

Ah yes, the conservatives. They're always at fault, one way or the other.

I used the word 'conservative', but the right one should be 'kukkahattutäti', meaning a sixty year old (single) woman who wears flower hats all the time, you getting my drift here? (just trying not to say that all conservatists are alike or evil)

Kassi, yes it's public information, but is it cool to put it on a page that has nothing else, and then promote it all over internet? It's not illegal, I'm just saying he could think before doing it, what's his purpose there? Why make it easier?

Oh, yes, that's a nother basket of cookies...

[Winston]

Pekka,
I think society and human nature itself has an extremely hard time dealing with random attacks whose motives can't easily be explained. A certain amount of the headless chicken behaviour will always follow in these cases. Everybody has an opinion and are eager to vent it. Once the facts are uncovered, as much as they can be, things will settle down I'm sure.

[Pekka]

THat was my whole point . He can do it if he want's to, I'm not against that. I just question his morality, and his ability to think what he is doing and responsibility. If he still feels like it's a good idea, then sure, it's up to him.
I just think he did a stupid thing.

[Winston]

Kassiopeia,
Yes, I get your point about the conservative thingy now.

[Pekka]

In my opinion these 'conservatives' etc (read almost everybody over 30) needs scape goat, they need face to this. They are trying to figure out why he did this, in order to understand it and maybe prevent it happening again.
They can't understand, that these things can happen because someone is sick and that television did not tell him to do it. If there's no one to point, they go crazy.