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  • Yes, Stefu has the clue. Apparently there's unofficial news that he would have been against capitalism or globalisation. But so far no official news about that. Also note the very latest update from Reuters about the fact that he most likely found the instructions on the web. Maybe this turn up to be the most severe bomb explosion done by using instructions found on the web.

    My personal opinion is now that he was a lone anti capitalist fanatic who went too far and wanted to attack capitalism or globalisation by a bomb attack in a large shopping centre. Somekind of a protest against consuming Finns shopping capitalist products. Just some laud rumblings. At least the link between anti capitalism or anti globalisation and a shopping centre like Myyrmanni would sound somehow understandable.
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    • Originally posted by Winston

      Glad to learn they were able to save some of the victims in critical condition. We have to count our blessings amid the horror of this.
      That's what I think too. Some good news after all. Unfortunately some of these and several others will although have lifelong injuries like lost limbs or blindness, but at least we can say that they survived.
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      • They just said at news that the guy's friends said he had just gone through a break-up. Could be something in there...
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        • hmm.. maybe. But if he was against capitalims or globalisation, I think he still acted alone, and any organisations here did not know about it.
          We will learn more soon, I hope.
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          • My personal opinion is now that he was a lone anti capitalist fanatic who went too far and wanted to attack capitalism or globalisation by a bomb attack in a large shopping centre. Somekind of a protest against consuming Finns shopping capitalist products.
            Of course, if it was found out that he was an anti-glob activist, Erkki "I was in ATTAC but then they turned too commie even for me" Tuomioja would spare no time in telling us that anti-globalizationism is the Ideology of Peace.
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            • Stefu, yep.. but they were definately rumours. They said he was very quiet and lonely. Possibly depressed then too (my own addition). People like that tend to take break ups etc extra hard.
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              • If the theory on anti-globalization as a motive proves to be true, it would certainly serve as an eye-opener to some people of what far left radicals are capable of, if the hate is strong enough.

                And I still don't think he acted alone. At the very least, I think others were in on the plans for the attack, but it may be uglier than that.

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                • Well, the anti capitalism or globalisation ideology could also just have been a partial reason. Maybe he just had too many psychological problems or stress, so he just couldn't stand it and used an ideology as an excuse. Anyway, currently it strongly looks like he was acting on his own and that it wasn't a terrorist attack as he acted more like a madman who was organised and didn't go out for a rampage. Anyway, we will get to know more about his personal motives as the NBI interrogates his parents and friends, but also analyses the information from the house search.
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                  • Rasbelin, As of this moment, I don't know what to think of the bomber. In the US, we have had many instances of crazies begin a shooting spree they know will end in the police shooting them. It is now called suicide by cop. But, in the process, a lot of innocent people are killed.
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                    • According to what I've heard, the bomber had no apparent political motivation behind his actions - he was "just" a student bent on creating pyrotechnic stuff who happened to suffer a mental breakdown for no currently obvious reason and experimented his creations in the Absolutely Wrong Place.
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                      • Okay, the internet junkies have been busy. Even some Finnish news agencies have published a name; Petri Gerdt.

                        Also, some information says that the pellets flew in a mostly vertical direction, and that only the bombers feet remained intact, hinting that he was setting down the bomb (and maybe intending to escape) but it blew up in his hands. Eerie.

                        Backup of the Kotikemia ('Home Chemistry') forum (Finnish) - I'll see if I could translate some of user rc's postings (believed to be Gerdt).



                        Kotikemia forum owner suggests that the board be closed for a week in memory of 'rc' and that the members gather in six months to commemorate him. The second post reads: "Oh hell, it was rc after all. BUT WHY?"



                        The purpose is to write about accidents, the police or otherwise funny occasions....

                        I haven't had any bigger accidents, but once I saw a police car driving to the detonation site. Fortunately I was already 'floating' to the other way.

                        In the next dream I was deep inside a forest
                        And finally, for the peeping toms, an alleged pic of Gerdt. -removed, read Pekka's reasoning below -
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                        • Let's just call this a DP.
                          Last edited by Kassiopeia; October 13, 2002, 17:38.
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                          • petri gerdt, ey

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                            busy little fellow

                            but I guess it could be this guy (who are the busy one):

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                            • Heh, good point. All the Petri Gerdts in Finland are busy editing their web pages.
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                              • That's not the same Petri.

                                Also Kassis picture is not the same person. I mean think about it, this guy is 187cm.. and checking that photo in full size (where are other people too), he's definately not near 187cm. He can't be the same guy, he's not even close matching description.
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