Any Christians out there?

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Oh man, this thing has been going on for ages.

And it will go on for ages more. In two or three weeks somebody will start a "My God can kick your God's ass" thread, and 90% of the posts on that thread will be equivalent to 90% of the posts on this one. Same thing will happen again in five or six weeks, when somebody will start a "You are all going to hell ROFLMAO, I'll pray for you" thread. Good thing, too, because otherwise the front page would be filled with "America sux" and "America rox" threads.

[Urban Ranger]

You still have the time and inclination to butt heads with religious fanatics? I think the wise thing to do is to write your own website, then just post the link whenever one of these threads shows up.

Ethelred too he's quite energetic.

I am waiting for the "MS sux" or "MS rox" threads myself

[Ethelred]

I am waiting for the "MS sux" or "MS rox" threads myself

I neither believe nor disbelieve in MicroSoft. I merely use it. Bill Gates may or may not exist. I have heard that some people have actually met him. Berkely Breathed for instance claims to have stood behind him in line at a theatre once. Before he put him in his strip. Yeah right. He was clearly just trying to make his fantasy sound more convincing. Like I am going to believe someone that calls themself Berkely.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
You still have the time and inclination to butt heads with religious fanatics?

I don't really butt heads with anybody. I first put my foot in the water, and then I generally ignore anybody who tries to chew it off. E.g, "What? You don't have the same opinions as I do? You're going to burn in hell for all eternity LOL LOL LOL, I will pray for you." After somebody's decided that I'm going to burn in hell, then I've found that there's rarely anything to be gained by debating with them.

[cgannon64]

Why does it seem that all Civ boards are athiest????

And I'm Catholic by the Way

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by cgannon64
Why does it seem that all Civ boards are athiest????

Because you're oversensitive?

And I'm Catholic by the Way

There are a lot of those too. A lot of the Agnostics are ex-Catholics which the Protestants somehow think is significant even though Catholics are the largest group of christians are there for likely to produce the most Agnostics/Atheists simply by force of numbers.

By the way I think you will find their are more Agnostics than Atheists here. Its just that the christians that keep making polls insist on not having an Atheist option.

[Q Classic]

i highly doubt that any alien civilization, if any do exist, would have heard of Jesus and God and understood the message of the Word.

of course, I could be wrong. still, it couldn't hurt to prosetylize in person, because they're probably getting benny hinn, jimmy swaggart, the bakers, and TBN right now.

[ckweb]

Originally posted by CyberShy
ckweb:
this is what ethelred said,

SYLLABICATION: fun·da·men·tal·ism
PRONUNCIATION: fnd-mntl-zm
NOUN: 1. A usually religious movement or point of view characterized by a return to fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those principles, and often by intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism. 2a. often Fundamentalism An organized, militant Evangelical movement originating in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th century in opposition to Protestant Liberalism and secularism, insisting on the inerrancy of Scripture. b. Adherence to the theology of this movement.

Even they get it wrong in part though. Its often not organized in that respect. Especially in the US where many people are Fundamenatlists and never go to any church. They do it on their own. I think it comes from the time when people were spreading into new land and were often far from any organized churches.

I still haven't seen you offer an alternative term.

especially the bold part is the part where you can see he's making it up himself.

I'll reply more later, I have to go to eat

The bold part is a reasonable extrapolation based on the nature of Fundamentalism in the United States. He's not making it up; he's observing reality.

[ckweb]

Originally posted by Ethelred
The point I am trying to make to you is that still leaves the Bible in the same class as other writings about gods that also have real history mixed in. I chose the Norse gods and legends as an example which is real legend and real myths created by real societies and for your example you chose a religion that we both know is NOT at all similar to the Bible or Norse myths and legends for the simple reason that one man made the whole thing up. Even if millions of Mormons are in denial. Which helps support me by the way. They believe just as strongly as you or Cybershy or Lars even though it so patently fraudulent that its ridiculous.

Reality is not needed for people to believe. Only belief. Faith is often misplaced. As far as I can see ALL religions are based on misplaced faith.

When someone shows real evidence of Thor or Jehovah then those extraordinary, either of them, will have some backing. Ordinary history cannot support claims of gods or else you would have to accept Thor as just as probable as Jehovah. Then again I think Thor IS just as probable as Jehovah. Not very.

I haven't heard about many people experiencing Thor personally, have you?

[Ethelred]

I haven't heard about many people experiencing Thor personally, have you?

Well it has been a while and the average Berserker wasn't particularly literate. There is at least one mold from Iceland from after 999 when the Allthing decided that Iceland would go Christian that makes a Cross AND Thor's Hammer at the same time. Perhaps someone saw them playing bridge together during a manifestion of the Northern Lights.

[Urban Ranger]

Ethelred,

What, you don't believe in the great Emperor Bill? The Teenage Mutant MS Bratpack is going to lynch you... or die try to.


loin,

That's an interesting position to take.

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Ethelred,

What, you don't believe in the great Emperor Bill?

No. But I do believe in Emperor Norton. He made his own currency and that has to be more real than making your own OS.

Emperor Norton was perhaps THE most colorful character in the history of San Fransico and that was at the same time that Lola Montez was challenging San Fransico reporters to duals.

[loinburger]

Originally posted by ckweb
I haven't heard about many people experiencing Thor personally, have you?

Who knows what's going on in those Finnish threads...

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by loinburger


Who knows what's going on in those Finnish threads...

Thor is Norse and Germanic. The Fins are not related. Just ask them. Their closest cultural relative is the Urgs. Then the Hungarians AKA Magyars as not all Magyars live in Hugary. The only thing I know about the Urgs is that they go in the group Finno-Urgic.

I think Steffu knows whats going on but he isn't telling. Maybe they are planing to ally with the Hungarians and sweep into Greece instead of Italy this time.

[ckweb]

Originally posted by Ethelred


Well it has been a while and the average Berserker wasn't particularly literate. There is at least one mold from Iceland from after 999 when the Allthing decided that Iceland would go Christian that makes a Cross AND Thor's Hammer at the same time. Perhaps someone saw them playing bridge together during a manifestion of the Northern Lights.

The average Jew and early Christian wasn't literate either. You're using humour, however, to evade a reasonable point. In addition to the historicity of the so-called "ordinary" events, there is an enormous legacy of witnesses who testify to personal encounters with God. Most interestingly, these witnesses are transnational. Mass delusion becomes a very tenuous and strained interpretation when the totality of the Christian experience and claims is taken into account.