Chrétien to step down

[Ninot]

bah, you will all rue the day you counted the Bloc Quebecois out of it!

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Seeker
The self-assured Eastern intellectuals again prove their 'superiority' over the hapless 'stupid' Westerners.

Western will soon have you thinking like a proper Easterner.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Tingkai


Not that's a typical comment from a Western bigot: you damm easterners don't know nothin.

Yup! I'm condemning people who condemn others based on region and... selective absorbtion of information. I'm whatever that makes me.

You remain a bigot. Keep digging, you might 'improve'.

[Tingkai]

I notice that while you repeatedly call me a bigot, you still refuse to back up your insult with any decent theory.

[Ninot]

I only condemn people who live immediately in Toronto.
And I have no reason for that truly, just because its Toronto.

Does that make me bad, or good? I mean, its Toronto

[Tingkai]

Just extremely misguided.

[Ninot]

Originally posted by notyoueither
It will be a cold day in Hades when a majority of people from Thuder Bay and east support a Western 'Whiner' party. The only hope for the right is that more people in Ontario and Quebec bury the hatchet with the PCs. IMO.

k, ill be serious now.

I think the Bloc will be losing support, but not enough so that voters swing to the Right. Seperatism may be at an all time low, but the Bloc is still widely seen as the best way for Quebec to get represented in the Commons.

Expect to see another Liberal and Bloc dominated Quebec in 2004, i predict.

[Ninot]

Originally posted by Seeker
When was the last time a major party talked seriously about REAL parliamentary reform?

Trudeau? MacDonald?

[Loif]

I think the fact that westerners (Albertans and British Columbians in particular) keep voting differently from the East is that we know what we want. We don't want the freaking Liberals.

Granted Day was not the right leader for the Alliance, but I think he took a lot of heat that Chretien never seems to have to take. By the way, its not the called the Canadian Reform Alliance Party (CRAP) anymore. Your ignorance is showing.

[Ninot]

Originally posted by Loif
Granted Day was not the right leader for the Alliance, but I think he took a lot of heat that Chretien never seems to have to take. By the way, its not the called the Canadian Reform Alliance Party (CRAP) anymore. Your ignorance is showing.

I agree here... to a point

Chretien in the past handful of years has gotten by with more slack than he should have. Not that he ruined the nation or anything, i just think he got it easy.

but Doris Day was not a propper leader for the Right neither. Personally, i think Joe Clark was a better right-side leader than Day was, and if the parties would have merged before he decided to retire, i think hed make a decent opposition leader, and perhaps PM too if it ever came to that.

But, Clark is out of it, so whos next? Who will step against a Martin and have a chance? i dont think very many people. A non-political celebrity may stand the best chance.

Gretzky for PM in 2004!

[Loif]

How about Red Green?

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Loif
Granted Day was not the right leader for the Alliance, but I think he took a lot of heat that Chretien never seems to have to take. By the way, its not the called the Canadian Reform Alliance Party (CRAP) anymore. Your ignorance is showing.

Ah, but at the time of the election to which I was referring, it was called CRAP.

EDIT: Okay, I'm wrong on this one. Made a mistake. But then CRAP called by another name is still CRAP.

You're right that Chretien gets away with murder, but that's partly because he has a hell of a lot more political savvy/slime then Day. Chretien has been around long enough to know what he can get away with and how to spin things when he screws up.

Day was an amatuer by comparison. Remember the jet ski in Penticton. He looked like an idiot because it was so cheessy.

Reform/CRAP/CA/whatever politicians also screw themselves up because they routinely complain about the damm Easterners. The funny thing is they're shocked when people get offended. They have no idea how insulting they are.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Loif
How about Red Green?

Can you imagine how the Americans would react.

"What? They elected some commie environmentalist as PM."

[Loif]

Originally posted by Tingkai




Reform/CRAP/CA/whatever politicians also screw themselves up because they routinely complain about the damm Easterners. The funny thing is they're shocked when people get offended. They have no idea how insulting they are.

Well I find the Liberals insulting. How many times do they think they can screw us over before they get thrown out? It'll never happen I guess.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Tingkai
I notice that while you repeatedly call me a bigot, you still refuse to back up your insult with any decent theory.

Well, I'm not sure. I think you've made a big enough ass of yourself in this thread, but here's a few more.


Let's see, this one's enlightening:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52061

My the way you dance through arguments to maintain your predjudices, it is remarkable.


This thread is really interesting Tingkai. Which is it? We don't matter, or we're the cause of all the problems?

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51884

When JC says something that pisses off Albertans, it doesn't matter too much, because as you have told us so often, the Liberals don't care about Alberta and they don't need Albertan votes.


One of the best threads does not appear to be in the archives. I looked for it. That's where I met you I believe. You had some interesting things to say about the CNR and how the West still needs to pay for the rail road that we've paid for a hundred times by now. Twas interesting. I was new. I couldn't quite grasp where the person on the opposing key board could possibly have been coming from. I don't normally stick around to talk to idiots for extended periods, except on these message boards it seems.

Now, you've had some fun with Asher. Guess what? Asher ain't around much any more. But you're still trying to b!tch slap a region for some reason. Well, guess what? Some people are sick of it.

You act the twot, I'll call you a twot. I'll do it to your face, and to anybody else who wants to talk about it, whether [your] bigoted ass is around or not.

If I get restricted, fine. I'm not gonna abide your crap directed at where I come from anymore.

BTW, they ditched the name CRAP 2 or 3 days after it was proposed. They are twots too, but at least they can get some facts straight.