Chrétien to step down

[blackice]

220,000 families recieve the NCB in Alberta that suggest's 29% children live in low income in Alberta or poverty is a threat.

Let's face it kids you do not get the NCB in Alberta unless you qualify.
In order to qualify you have be eeking it...

http://www.acsw.ab.ca/publications/Low_Income_Review.pdf

Oh I could go on all night

[Asher]

Originally posted by blackice
Oh I could go on all night

No doubt.
blackice, you're the Energizer bunny of bull****.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Frogger


Ease up. I've been polite to all of you so far. You could at least return the favour.

I only ask why people from other parts of Canada are so complacent about the sh!t that is flying about the West and Alberta. If this sh!t were flying about Quebec or the Maritimes, or *God forbid* Ontario, I think a number of people from Alberta would have knives out too.

Or is it just too funny?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by blackice
220,000 families recieve the NCB in Alberta that suggest's 29% children live in low income in Alberta or poverty is a threat.

Let's face it kids you do not get the NCB in Alberta unless you qualify.
In order to qualify you have be eeking it...

http://www.acsw.ab.ca/publications/Low_Income_Review.pdf

Oh I could go on all night

And where are the comparisons, oh master of deceit.

Glad the little green men came by to pick you up for the night. You must be straining the extenuation factor of the broadcast rays.

[blackice]

$1200 a month rent as a 7-11 clerk in Fort McMurray? That's like buying a Toyota Tercel for $3M.

http://www.woodbuffalo.net/cost.htm

http://www.woodbuffalo.net/cost.htm

No Asher Real T.V. again the stuff you refuse to believe.

Again I could go on all night, you?

[Asher]

Your own sources trash your $1200/mo figure.

Let's see what you did here:
You found the fastest growing small city in Alberta with the lowest vacancy rate and highest rent costs, then you assumed he was a minimum wage worker living in this area, and he wanted to rent a 4 bedroom apartment, so naturally the average rate for this is $1199 according to your link.

You sure love stretching the truth and praying no one notices, don't you?

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither


I only ask why people from other parts of Canada are so complacent about the sh!t that is flying about the West and Alberta. If this sh!t were flying about Quebec or the Maritimes, or *God forbid* Ontario, I think a number of people from Alberta would have knives out too.

Or is it just too funny?

I think you're all getting worked up over nothing. There's been no serious discussion so far...

Oh, and every time Asher talks about the rest of Canada he does have somehing snide to say about it. Even though you're a bunch of right-wing hick nutters who have elected a premier straight from the depths of hell, I still liked most of the people I met there. Perchance, do you remember some of the things which have been said about Quebec in other discussions? Calling it a province full of whiners and ingrates was just the beginning...

Now if and when Alberta needed help in the real world, I'd be there. Until then, I'll be thinking fondly of the rash of can-pol threads a few months ago which were lively but managed to avoid sinking to the level of petty cruelness for at least the first 10 pages...

[blackice]

Yup staring you in the face from all sources government, poverty groups...Etc and I bull**** Yup I made the information and the sites :eyesroll:

Denial said it before.

Well kids you have to read it before you comment or you just continue to look like the Idiots you are now. So on that note I have to get some sleep.

Digest the information Right

The two butt buddies would rather play the one line game than actually learn something.

But I am counting on you to come up with something anything on topic or substanial before tomorrow.

I do not mean stupid comments...

No something that makes me go hummmm I'll get back to you....

Ya right

Good night all take care

[Asher]

Originally posted by Frogger
Oh, and every time Asher talks about the rest of Canada he does have somehing snide to say about it.

Note that most of my snide comments are meant not to be taken seriously, or they're pokes at the horrible voting patterns of people who live out there.
I do despise the Liberal government (save for maybe Paul Martin), but I really don't care about the other provinces. It's always fun to poke fun at them just because Alberta is at the receiving end of that itself as well, I just assumed it was a Canadian thing to do to tease other provinces...

[Asher]

BTW, blackice, I see you've read this book.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Frogger


I think you're all getting worked up over nothing. There's been no serious discussion so far...

Oh, and every time Asher talks about the rest of Canada he does have somehing snide to say about it. Even though you're a bunch of right-wing hick nutters who have elected a premier straight from the depths of hell, I still liked most of the people I met there. Perchance, do you remember some of the things which have been said about Quebec in other discussions? Calling it a province full of whiners and ingrates was just the beginning...

Now if and when Alberta needed help in the real world, I'd be there. Until then, I'll be thinking fondly of the rash of can-pol threads a few months ago which were lively but managed to avoid sinking to the level of petty cruelness for at least the first 10 pages...

So, your really feel the... things posted here by Tingkai and blackice are OK?

Yup, I've been a pr!ck. You come at me, I'll come at you every way I know how.

What's been posted here isn't harmless KH. Unless you discount it to trolling. I don't. I gave both a reasonable chance to discuss the issues. I got bile and bigotry back. Oh, you don't like that term? Well, too bad. That's the point.

There is a significant amount of bigotry towards Alberta alive and well in this fine, noble nation of ours. Some people from where I'm from have had enough of it. We long ago lost our sense of humour on the subject.

Asher isn't the only audience of these threads. There are a number of Albertans on these boards. Talk trash about where we are from, and stick to it after you get spanked the first time, then fvck off! I have no use for you.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by notyoueither
What's been posted here isn't harmless KH. Unless you discount it to trolling. I don't. I gave both a reasonable chance to discuss the issues. I got bile and bigotry back. Oh, you don't like that term? Well, too bad. That's the point.

What a bunch of sanctimonious BS. The reason this thread went downhill so quickly was because of NYE. (by no means am I suggesting that the rest of us were saints, although Frogger has stayed polite as have others occassional posters).

But let's face the obvious facts. NYE thinks that insulting people makes him look tough when, in fact, it only lowers our opinion of him.

This is NYE's very first response to my off-the-cuff comment about the West and the WMA.

"You say the NEP is the West's fault because we didn't rebel when the War measures act was used? Are you trying to be insulting, or are you just a stupid jack ass?"

Yup, that's a reasonable response that keeps the discussion out of the sewer. No insults there.


In response to my second post on the issue, which contains no insults, NYE posted the following:

"I guess the answer would be stupid jack ass. The people most effected (sic) by PET and the NEP had been, and have been electing anybody other than Liberals for a very long time. What does that do for your spew of bigotry? "

And his third:
"You sir, are a bigot. I stuff your argument down your throat [my edit: big time ] , you come back with some lame ass attempt to say that I am just some Westerner whining."

By the way, NYE was upset because I dared to voice the opinion that his comment about Albertans being the most affected by Trudeau's policies was the typical Western whine.

It is quite obvious that NYE took this discussion down into the gutter. He made no effort to be reasonable. He spewed out bile and insults without a second thought and he was the first to do so.

Now NYE is trying to pretend he's the injured party.

[Asher]

Tip #1, Tingkai: Never bring up the NEP in the presense of an Albertan, particularly when they lived through the whole thing.
Tip #2: Don't blame the west out of the blue for something the west wasn't responsible for within earshot of Westerners

All of this living on top of oil has us on edge, and we WILL snap at you.

Edit: And BTW, what Sic was there in that comment of nye's? Maybe I'm just tired but it looks fine to me.

And NYE was upset that you randomly blamed the West for a mistake that is clearly only Trudeau's. You could have blamed EVERYONE in Canada for not being all up in arms over it, but you blamed the West. That really pisses a lot of people off, surely you're smart enough to realize that?

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher
Tip #1, Tingkai: Never bring up the NEP in the presense of an Albertan, particularly when they lived through the whole thing.
Tip #2: Don't blame the west out of the blue for something the west wasn't responsible for within earshot of Westerners

All of this living on top of oil has us on edge, and we WILL snap at you.

Edit: And BTW, what Sic was there in that comment of nye's? Maybe I'm just tired but it looks fine to me.

More like bark rather than bite.

The sic was the idea that he had stuffed my argument down my throat. Okay, not a true sic, but it was hard to post that without making a comment. I'll edit that bit to make it more clear.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher
And NYE was upset that you randomly blamed the West for a mistake that is clearly only Trudeau's. You could have blamed EVERYONE in Canada for not being all up in arms over it, but you blamed the West. That really pisses a lot of people off, surely you're smart enough to realize that?

If all Canadians failed to protest Trudeau's actions (and that was our mistake, not his) than it is fair to comment that part of the country then got their just desserts when Trudeau later screwed them. It wouldn't make sense for me to say Ontario got its just desserts when the NEP was created (even if Ontario was just as deserving as Alberta).

I was not saying that it was just the fault of the west. In fact, I stated quite early on that it was all of our faults.

The leopard showed his spots in Oct. 70, but most of Canada turned a blind eye, mainly because of anti-French sentiment in English Canada (And yes, that most certainly includes Ontario)

The War Measures Act deprived people in Quebec of their basic liberties. It was created in response to the kidnapping of two people by about a dozen people. It was draconian, and yet it barely created a peep out of most English Canadians.

By remaining silent, we set the stage for the independence movement in Quebec, wage and price controls and the NEP.