Hello all...went on a train ride today.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
JM - I believe the opposite. As I said, moderators are not qualified psychologists who can make the judgement call that such threats are harmless and the person making them has no intention of following through. If they are to err on the side of caution, that caution is harsh treatment of the offending poster. Real people have been murdered by online nutballs, so I don't think it's unrealistic.

It was a hypothetical situation with Ming. I wouldn't ever threaten to contact anyone's family from here, as I think that's an utterly reprehensible threat to make.

yes, but it is a known response in a verbal fight to thraten the person you are having a verbal fight with

while wrong, it is not something that is super serious (now if it was actually done that would be serious, or if SuperSneak kept doing it)

people on this site have threatened eachother with violence fairly often, what you do to people whoare that upset is that you remove them and hope that they will cool down

that is what was done here

Jon Miller

[Asher]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
I admit I do not know that much about your life

I only know a little bit about my own (and a even smaller ammount of some of those arround me)

I knwo that I would have no problem with my parents thinking I am gay (or being told so), even when I am not

I wonder if your parents are as conservative (and religious) as mine are? I don't think they'd respond favorably with it. I know for sure my grandparents wouldn't, last time I was at their house the gay pride parade was on TV and my grandfather made a comment about how gays are so useless and he wouldn't mind one bit if someone wiped them off the face of the planet.

So you can probably imagine my aprehension at the possibility of some ******* from the internet outting me to my family.

He has since said he won't carry through with that threat, but that's enough for me to give me a wakeup call and scared the **** out of me, so I'm trying to leave communities like Apolyton. And it's hard to do without Ming restricting my account.

[Jon Miller]

my parents are fairly right wing (use to be more so)

they would hate it and respond negatively to me, I just would not care if they did so

Jon Miller

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
yes, but it is a known response in a verbal fight to thraten the person you are having a verbal fight with

while wrong, it is not something that is super serious (now if it was actually done that would be serious, or if SuperSneak kept doing it)

Sneak DID keep doing it, he used the threat several times, and his tone was certainly serious. I believed he was serious.

There is a difference between a "I will beat you!" comment and a "I am going to use the information on your Web site to look up your parents' residence in Vancouver and mail them transcripts of postings showing them you are a bisexual."

Doesn't the specificity of the latter send a chill down your spine? It creeps the hell out of me and I take it very seriously.

[Jon Miller]

I admit that my postition with my parents is somwhat unique

it is hard to explain (it is related to their divorce)

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Sneak DID keep doing it, he used the threat several times, and his tone was certainly serious. I believed he was serious.

There is a difference between a "I will beat you!" comment and a "I am going to use the information on your Web site to look up your parents' residence in Vancouver and mail them transcripts of postings showing them you are a bisexual."

Doesn't the specificity of the latter send a chill down your spine? It creeps the hell out of me and I take it very seriously.

he threatened numerous times in the course of a single argument, not the same thing

Jon Miller

[Boris Godunov]

What's the difference???!!!

And who cares if it was only once...the seriousness of it was enough. He made a very specific threat, not an off-the-cuff statement. It was a pre-meditated threat to do something IRL that he PERSISTED with even after Asher had called him on how seriously he took it.

[Lancer]

Well, a gay ol time in Sneaks thread.

To sum up, I'm glad he had such a good train trip.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

look at this

Well...I just want to make it clear I have no issue with your sexuality, Asher. But I think you'd be better off telling them yourself.
BTW, my threat to out you was just that...a threat in a moment of extreme anger. I truly do hope it works out for you...I don't relish your situation and assume your family would be more understanding than you might think.

from uncle sneak




he wasn't serious... don't be too fussed about the whole thing.

[Asher]

Funny how blackice and Lancer have now dropped the topic, and after all of this talk about "being a man" not one of them has apologized to me.

[Jon Miller]

a lot of people (most people in fact) make thratrs (sometimes very serious ones) when angry

the difference between those who cause a lot of damage and those that do not is one acts while hot and the other waits and rethinks things

I think supersneak is of the second type

it is [/b]very[/b] common

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Asher
Funny how blackice and Lancer have now dropped the topic, and after all of this talk about "being a man" not one of them has apologized to me.

it would be nice if their were public apologies all arround

but in all honesty, I am just glad that the fight did not get serious again

Jon Miller

[Asher]

Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
look at this

from uncle sneak



he wasn't serious... don't be too fussed about the whole thing.

That's such bull****, he's trying to cover his ass for his cruel and uncalled for remarks, and I'm not buying it.

I don't care if changed his mind the next day on it (which appears to be the case here), but the fact that he threatened to do it (several times) and has the capability to do it is enough for me.

He's such an ass in everything he does. Not only does he step WELL over the line of what was acceptable, he actually goes around and tries to play it cool afterwards when he knows he deeply upset the person he was debating with. The result is an infuriated teenager and a "cool" old man, and is it that much of a surprise that Sneak only got a 1 week ban and Lancer/blackice jumped to his aid?

It's PATHETIC.

And where is Ming?!

[Boris Godunov]

I don't think he will perma-ban you, just because that's exactly what you want him to do.

What about will power?

[Asher]

I'm not looking for a perma-ban, just a month or two to last me well into school when I'll be busy and forget about this place.

I quit my job last week and wrote my final on friday, and I don't start school till September 9th, so I've got like 3 weeks of nothing to do, and unless I'm banned from Poly I don't think I'll be able to resist coming back. And for my own good I don't want to come back.

I just don't understand why Ming won't voluntarily restrict my account.