Hello all...went on a train ride today.

[red_jon]

Originally posted by blackice
Niether were right Red, Sneak has at least owned up to that. His personality here at least says to me he was being honest in the fact he would have never done it.

An attack on your family Red is simply wrong, you simply can not ignore that fact as you seem to want to do. Sneak blew out justifiable and has since explained himself and admitted it was over the top.

Insulting one's family is equally appalling to most if not all the people here you Red?

This situation was resolved a long time ago we all agree niether was right. Well most of us seems thier are two holdouts...

I wasn't saying an attack on his family is right, but they're just words. Making personal threats is really, really wrong

[Asher]

Originally posted by blackice
Asher you are rude inconsiderate and immature. Have you ever heard a parent call thier child a bastard child?

No, but I also don't see most parents going around and calling their child stupid either. Some children are stupid, some children are bastard childs (illegit. child is the PC term these days)

Do you even hear that word used anymore?

Actually I do.

You obviously used it as an attack on Steak your just not man enough to admit it.

What the hell? Of course I used it as an attack on Sneak (Steak?). That was the point. It wasn't an attack on his family. It wasn't a nice way to say it, but it wasn't supposed to be nice -- I was pissed off at him and he was pissed off at me, things are said.

The fact that he's running around crying about how people are attacking his family either shows just how stupid he is that he can't read things in context, or that he knew he could get away with it because of morons like you andd Lancer who don't care to look into what was really said and just read "attack on family -- that is bad! did you kill the ****er, Sneak, did you kill him?!"

Stop attacking family members you lamer. Especially innocent kids your a joke buddy the worst kind.

But you just said yourself it was an attack on Sneak. Hello blackice, "reality dictates" you pay attention to what you're saying.

[orange]

i sense another week coming up

[Asher]

Ming doesn't seem to respond to requests asking for an account to be restricted voluntarily, so there has to be other ways of going about it.

[C0ckney]

Let it go dude..

[blackice]

What does anyone's child have to do with these forums Asher?

Now if you had said he was a bastard you have attacked him, you did not you said he had a bastard child. That is talking about his child Asher wakeup man….

The term is rude and inconsiderate period, it is not used has not been used in years. The reason most think it is derogatory any parent surely does.

As for the rest don't try and justify it for me, for me it is clear you involved an innocent child of a poster to "piss" him off as you say.

Try not to do that is simply not right and uncalled for.

Red neither was right period...enough said

Why get banned Asher, just take that leave you were talking about. You obviously need it, it will do you good Asher.

[Lancer]

Read the thread first?

Now there's a thought...

However I think I've got the idea. Some twit picks on Sneak's family and gets threatened with bodily harm. Yes?
Well, I've always had a problem with such threats. The problem is that the internet prevents folks from reaching out and touching someone hiding behind it and making comments about loved ones. I've met Sneak, gotten to know him, and I'll tell you this, the twit got off light w/ a few threats.

But you're right, I haven't read the thread, I just have confidence in SuperSneak and have replied to attacks against my family as well. I know the drill.

[red_jon]

Re: Read the thread first?

Originally posted by Lancer
Now there's a thought...

However I think I've got the idea. Some twit picks on Sneak's family and gets threatened with bodily harm. Yes?
Well, I've always had a problem with such threats. The problem is that the internet prevents folks from reaching out and touching someone hiding behind it and making comments about loved ones. I've met Sneak, gotten to know him, and I'll tell you this, the twit got off light w/ a few threats.

But you're right, I haven't read the thread, I just have confidence in SuperSneak and have replied to attacks against my family as well. I know the drill.

No, Sneak threatened to contact Asher's parents and tell them he's bisexual. Which is worse than a threat of bodily harm as he could feasably do it. Forcibly outing someone to their families is a dispicable thing to do.

[Asher]

Originally posted by blackice
What does anyone's child have to do with these forums Asher?

When a man is going on and on about what a great man he is, it's fair game to look at his "accomplishments" and see how wonderful they actually are.

The comment was aimed at Sneak because he had the child with someone he wasn't even sure he'd be with in the near future, and that's highly irresponsible and not something a real man would do in my books. That's what the comment was about, he chose to believe it was a personal attack on his son for whatever reasons he has. The context was a slam against Sneak, and it was a slam against Sneak, I could have chosen far better words for it, but I was pissed off at the time. I was hoping that Sneak (in all of his wisdom with the various liberal arts degrees) could have figured out how to read in context and would see what was meant, but he couldn't do that.

That is talking about his child Asher wakeup man….

It was talking about his child from the angle of being one of his accomplishments of being "a man".

If it was a personal attack against his child, I would have actually said something to insult the child rather than describe the condition between his parents when he was born. The kid has nothing to do with that, which is why it boggles my mind that he cries about it being a personal attack against his son. It's more like it hurts Sneak's ego when someone brings it to his attention.

Red neither was right period...enough said

Well, let's see here.
I said he had a son in an unstable relationship by using the term bastard child. Apparently this isn't very PC, so this warrants a personal threat against me to out me to my parents. He not only uttered this threat ONCE, but multiple times. It may not seem like it's a big deal to you, but believe me it is...

Yeah, that's fair. 1 week each, that makes sense, doesn't it? Give me a ****ing break.

Why get banned Asher, just take that leave you were talking about. You obviously need it, it will do you good Asher.

Because as long as I know there's scum like Sneak around who will talk negatively about me behind my back I'm going to want to respond to it. That's why I asked Ming to restrict my account for at least a month but he didn't seem to care for that request.

[Asher]

Re: Read the thread first?

Originally posted by Lancer
Now there's a thought...

However I think I've got the idea. Some twit picks on Sneak's family and gets threatened with bodily harm. Yes?
Well, I've always had a problem with such threats. The problem is that the internet prevents folks from reaching out and touching someone hiding behind it and making comments about loved ones. I've met Sneak, gotten to know him, and I'll tell you this, the twit got off light w/ a few threats.

But you're right, I haven't read the thread, I just have confidence in SuperSneak and have replied to attacks against my family as well. I know the drill.

Lancer, you have no ****ing idea what you're talking about. Stay the hell out of it.

Sneak took a non-PC comment and began crying that someone was attacking his family, even though it should have been very obvious that was not the intent, and he then made a personal threat which has the very real possibility of majorly ****ing up someone's life. It's worse than the physical threat, because this threat is very real and very easy for him to pull off from a long distance.

[Boris Godunov]

*hugs Asher*

Had to get it in before you get booted again.

[Boris Godunov]

All I will say on this:

SS sent me a PM (won't post it, don't worry) apologizing to me about the incident. While I think it's a big thing to do, I feel that the threat to out Asher to his family (which he did NOT portray as a joke) was inexcusable, and there should be a zero-tolerance policy for such a threat. I would have had him perma-banned for it, and I think Asher had every right to be infuriated over it. Even if he called SS's kid a rotten little sh*t, that doesn't remotely compare to making a threat to do something to somebody in real life. Most message boards take this stuff VERY seriously, and I don't think Apolyton should be different.

I'm very pissed that someone whose presence I value will likely not return over this. But I don't blame him one bit.

Thank you.

[Lancer]

Asher, Prosper was born out of wedlock, but that's been fixed, Suzee and Sneak are married now. Yet you did not refrain from calling Prosper, a really great kid and son of a married couple, "a bastard".

Since the derogatory term is applied to children born out of wedlock and you decided to use it to Sneak, one of his parents, why should you consider it unfair if Sneak falls to your level, contacts your parents, and tells them you are gay? It's true isn't it? Just like Prosper being born out of wedlock is true? Or, if he were to fall to your level and choose a derogatory term, say you were a ******?

He wouldn't do that I'm sure and I use it only as an example to compare with your use of the term bastard.

[Jon Miller]

woohoo

Ashers back

there were some threads for you to join in (even a Microsoft thread)

Jon Miller

[Boris Godunov]

Lancer:

Calling someone's kid a bastard doesn't remotely compare to making a threat to do something to someone in real life by any stretch of the imagination. It is foolish to even compare the two.