Well David, it's my turn for flags waving.
You are nothing without allies. Don't you know this? In every single sandbox fight you are calling the great success of American military, you always create coalition even when your enemy is ten times weaker then you. (blah, sure you never have balls to attack someone who is equal to you) All what you can is cowardly bombings from safe distance. Great warriors my ass.
You will start to lose your carriers one by one when they meet with our carrier-killers of "Kirov" class. And the Russian fleet will give you a couple of lessons perhaps the first time in your peacefull history.
Just explain to me, why do you think that you will invade very well? You said no allies. Firt of all, it means that you can't use the territory of other countries as bridgehead for invasion in Russia. Explain it. All your bs about US power projection cappabilities is no more then BS. A dozen of carriers- this is the limit of your capabilities. To project your power you need allies, no allies- no projection. This point is perfectly prooven by your last millitary action- Afghanistan. If your carriers is so great for power projection, then you need nothing more. Why you begged for help from Afghanistan's neigbors. Why you asked for "right of passage" through their territory, for use of their airbases, if you are so great in power projection?
Who told you that Stealth couldn't be intercepted?
It's a total bs. Stealth planes are no problem for old S-300, for S-400 it's a peace of cake. You forget who is creater of this technology- Russian, Ufimtsev. Do you think Russians keep secrets from each other? Your stealth is perhaps stealth for others, but not for us.
Silly boy, you think we are Yougoslavia, Iraq or smth?
Your problem David is that you are an American. You are a product of camitalism and democracy. You just can't understand that other countries could act different then you think. Economy? investments? lol
The Vagabond already gave you a hint about mobilization economy. I'll try to explain you it further.
We have a very nice chapter in our constitution it called "an eneregency situation". In case of big war our president should declare an emeregency situation. Since it;s declared say good buy to democracy, capitalism and freemarket economy. Every possible resources, every plant start to work for military purposes. Aside you we was on edge of total extermination many times during our history and perfectly know that this is the only way to survive. Aside you we don't make many on blood of others and if somone will ever invade us again, he will fought against entire nation. No proffit, no blood sucking, only 24 hours a day work for victory. We was in blockade many times and if you think that you might scare Russian by isolation you are just silly. We are self sufficient country. If needed we'll surrvive in full isolation and we already done it many times. The claims that Russia can't feed itself is total bs. During last yars we have nice growth in agriculture. If you think that every day I'm buying foreign food in stores you are wrong. I'm buying our own food and buyng foreign food only if I want ananas or banana, you know they don't grow well in Siberia.
So, in case of American invasion. I'm pretty sure that emeregency situation will be declared with all conseqenses like nationalisation of industry for period of war. Also I'm pretty sure that another Patriotic War will be declared. And this thing is pretty dangrous, I can assure you. We have only two patriotic wars during our history. First was vs. Napoleon, second was vs. Hitler. To explain why this thing is pretty dangerous I should explain the differences between our cultures.
In your- Western civilization, human life is the highest value. For us "Rodina" is the highest value. In English you'll never find a word which can describe the full meaning of Russian "Rodina". When our Rodina is in danger, the human life is cost nothing. It's in our genes. We started our existance from almost 300 years of Mongolian occupation, and never since we defeated them we wasn't conqered. Many tried, all the time, no one was succeded.
If you ever dare to invade us, I'll be among first voluntiers. And when you and me will meet on battlefeild and if I'll be lucky, I will hit stick in your chest. And you know what? I will smile during this proccess, because YOU come to destroy my Rodina. If I'll be unliky and it will you who will shoot in my head, I will smile too, because I'm dying for Rodina-and this is the best way to end life.
Now imagine 150 millions like me. And tell me that it will be an easy task for USA. When first million of coffins will arive in USA your population will start whine that this war is endless, then your government are bustards who killing young American guys. For us first million of our victims will be only the beggining of war. With every new Russian victim we will become only more anger, because we will seek for revenge, even in cost of our own lives.
This is our psihology, idiology or whatever you may call it. That's how we won wars when our Rodina in danger.
Why the naval battles would be fought at locations of America's choosing? And why the f*ck it makes difference? And who told you that Russian Air forces couldn't be enywhere? You think we don't have long range aviation?
Personaly my thoughts- everyone who think that for USA it's a peice a cake to crush Russia is know nothing about Russians and that history teach those people nothing.
I have another thought too- kickboxing is sport of primitives.
Real mens chose karate
Have a nice day

Assuming all allies stay out of it, and assuming the war stays conventional, who wins in a war between the US and Russia?
Personally, I see no reason to think anything other than that the US would wipe the floor with Russia. We couldn't invade very well, except for possible strikes in the Soviet Far East, maybe seize the Petropavlovsk area, however, the Russian fleet would be utterly destroyed within hours of the declaration of war, at negligible cost to the USN, although the US would probably lose a few submarines. I doubt we'd lose a carrier, though.
Just explain to me, why do you think that you will invade very well? You said no allies. Firt of all, it means that you can't use the territory of other countries as bridgehead for invasion in Russia. Explain it. All your bs about US power projection cappabilities is no more then BS. A dozen of carriers- this is the limit of your capabilities. To project your power you need allies, no allies- no projection. This point is perfectly prooven by your last millitary action- Afghanistan. If your carriers is so great for power projection, then you need nothing more. Why you begged for help from Afghanistan's neigbors. Why you asked for "right of passage" through their territory, for use of their airbases, if you are so great in power projection?
This could be followed up by stealth aircraft attacks at various targets throughout Russia, with little chance of being intercepted, especially in the case of B-2A Spirits, and while they certainly could not vitally damage Russia, they could cause major damage to selected locations.



Who told you that Stealth couldn't be intercepted?
It's a total bs. Stealth planes are no problem for old S-300, for S-400 it's a peace of cake. You forget who is creater of this technology- Russian, Ufimtsev. Do you think Russians keep secrets from each other? Your stealth is perhaps stealth for others, but not for us.
But the big knockout blow would be economic. The US could institute a full naval blockade against Russia, and basically stop any food from getting in. While Russia could get a lot of resources over land routes, much of their food comes from overseas, which would be cut off. In addition, US investment would end, and without access to the bigger international markets, Russia's economy would slowly go down the tubes even more.
























Silly boy, you think we are Yougoslavia, Iraq or smth?
Your problem David is that you are an American. You are a product of camitalism and democracy. You just can't understand that other countries could act different then you think. Economy? investments? lol
The Vagabond already gave you a hint about mobilization economy. I'll try to explain you it further.
We have a very nice chapter in our constitution it called "an eneregency situation". In case of big war our president should declare an emeregency situation. Since it;s declared say good buy to democracy, capitalism and freemarket economy. Every possible resources, every plant start to work for military purposes. Aside you we was on edge of total extermination many times during our history and perfectly know that this is the only way to survive. Aside you we don't make many on blood of others and if somone will ever invade us again, he will fought against entire nation. No proffit, no blood sucking, only 24 hours a day work for victory. We was in blockade many times and if you think that you might scare Russian by isolation you are just silly. We are self sufficient country. If needed we'll surrvive in full isolation and we already done it many times. The claims that Russia can't feed itself is total bs. During last yars we have nice growth in agriculture. If you think that every day I'm buying foreign food in stores you are wrong. I'm buying our own food and buyng foreign food only if I want ananas or banana, you know they don't grow well in Siberia.
So, in case of American invasion. I'm pretty sure that emeregency situation will be declared with all conseqenses like nationalisation of industry for period of war. Also I'm pretty sure that another Patriotic War will be declared. And this thing is pretty dangrous, I can assure you. We have only two patriotic wars during our history. First was vs. Napoleon, second was vs. Hitler. To explain why this thing is pretty dangerous I should explain the differences between our cultures.
In your- Western civilization, human life is the highest value. For us "Rodina" is the highest value. In English you'll never find a word which can describe the full meaning of Russian "Rodina". When our Rodina is in danger, the human life is cost nothing. It's in our genes. We started our existance from almost 300 years of Mongolian occupation, and never since we defeated them we wasn't conqered. Many tried, all the time, no one was succeded.
If you ever dare to invade us, I'll be among first voluntiers. And when you and me will meet on battlefeild and if I'll be lucky, I will hit stick in your chest. And you know what? I will smile during this proccess, because YOU come to destroy my Rodina. If I'll be unliky and it will you who will shoot in my head, I will smile too, because I'm dying for Rodina-and this is the best way to end life.
Now imagine 150 millions like me. And tell me that it will be an easy task for USA. When first million of coffins will arive in USA your population will start whine that this war is endless, then your government are bustards who killing young American guys. For us first million of our victims will be only the beggining of war. With every new Russian victim we will become only more anger, because we will seek for revenge, even in cost of our own lives.
This is our psihology, idiology or whatever you may call it. That's how we won wars when our Rodina in danger.
Assuming a conventional war between the US and Russia, the US could project as much power as it needed anywhere it wanted, while Russia has almost no power projection ability. Thus, any naval battles would be fought at locations of America's choosing, and the US would have the ability to strike at will with strategic stealth bombers anywhere in Russia - the Russian air force can't be everywhere.
Serb, and other pro-Russian posters, what are your thoughts?
I have another thought too- kickboxing is sport of primitives.

Real mens chose karate

Have a nice day

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