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  • #451
    Tamerlin's still here

    Originally posted by finbar
    Well, it's a tradition, isn't it? But you can add just about every other member of our little ratbag bunch of rugby nuts to the list. The lot of the Wallaby supporter in this thread is a lonely one.
    No, I don't hate any National Rugby team. Though I love them all I always support a NH team playing against a SH team.

    The only "players" I almost invariably dislike are the SH referees, even when they are refereeing games between SH teams.

    Non mais !
    "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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    • #452
      Tamerlin really dislikes SH refs you know. Of course he is quite right - they are generally appalling for, as the laws of the game are very clear on, there is no interpretation - you are inside the laws or you are outside them.

      Every time a ref ignores a law he is technically in the wrong. SH refs ignore more laws. It's simple maths.

      Of course I learnt long ago that this is a dead duck to argue with SH fans - 'interpretation' is some kind of holy grail to you?

      There is a fascinating reaction to the streaker nonsense at Planet rugby here

      It includes amongst other things an Aussie having a go at, well, Aussies. Don't you have that copyrighted Finbar?
      It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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      • #453
        Originally posted by NeoStar
        Yeah...but, um - it makes for a better game when is goes down to the wire I'll admit I wasn't too fond of the Springbok performance, they can certainly rise to the occasions in SA but that game was at the Gabba - for a while there I was worried. Note to self - Caligastia and Havak hate Wallabies
        It is a more entertaining game when it goes down to the wire, but it hardly proves Wallaby dominance does it?

        I dont hate Wallabies, I just dont love them.

        Originally posted by Havak
        I really can’t think of nay bigger chance for him to shine than taking on Johnson. Grewcock and Kay all in one game. I’m sure he will do you credit. To be honest I expect us to shove you around up front somewhat but the key to England-NZ games is always in the backs and I don’t think we are there yet (we might win but our forwards will do it by starving you of ball if so). Watch out for Jason Robinson though – faster than Cullen if not yet quite the same rounded player.
        Robinson's skills are impressive, with a couple more players like him in the backs England will beat SH teams on a more regular basis.

        Well at the risk of upsetting Neostar and Finbar Twickenham is not a happy place for the Wallabies. The only time they have won there in a decade it took a very dubious last minute penalty (1998) – sound familiar at all?


        I took a look at that link you provided to reactions to the streakers, and I think this guy brought up an interesting point...

        Maybe John O'Neill should apologize. He was bashing NZ when some kid tried to tackle Gregan in Roturua. I can't believe the ARU does not have a problem about vodafone's involvement? Imagine what O'Neill would have done if it happened in New Zealand? The incident might have cost us three points. We'll get our revenge by winning the Tri-Nations."
        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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        • #454
          Originally posted by Havak
          I understand, and I think they are flawed, but all rankings are. After all it was home wins against France and South Africa that allowed you to take 2nd place over a totally dormant England – which lets face it is fairly meaningless unless we play?
          Think all those sorts of rankings - even the cricket ones - are faintly ludicrous, m'self. They prove nothing except that the system is flawed. I mean, even the WRC only proves a point at a particular moment in time. Things can change so rapidly.

          Some times you simply have to accept the opposition gets it right. Whether they did Saturday is debatable. I am worried that sometimes when your boys go in with a lead they relax too much – believing their own press a little too much maybe?
          Take your point that it can be the oppo lifting. Obviously. I don't think that was necessarily the case on Saturday. Suspect you're right that it's a matter of relaxing. The intensity drops. I'll leave your last notion alone.

          In actual fact they were ex-communicated after handing out all those free hats and scarves last year to Aussies too tight to buy their own.
          I'm actually surprised Vodaphone's still in business with the way telcos around the world have borrowed themselves into oblivion.

          But they simply are not as good as your media tries to make you believe as that bubble needs pricking IMO.
          Only time will tell.

          England may have been a joke to SH teams in the past
          Where on earth do you get this twaddle?

          What bothers me in all this is Finbar put it more rationally than me in his post following yours –
          Absolutely! You succumbed to NeoStar-ism, if I may be so bold.

          Heh I’ve been trying really hard to be good!
          You have too. I'm going to have to take NeoStar aside and explain the two simple facts of thread life to him:

          1. Never, never, never ever give Havak an opening to mention England or the Tigers or he'll drive a loaded lorry through it.

          2. Never, never, never ever break rule #1.

          " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
          "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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          • #455
            Surely he is not suggesting the ARU have double standards One rule for them - another rule for everyone else?

            It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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            • #456
              Re: Tamerlin's still here

              Originally posted by Tamerlin
              Though I love them all I always support a NH team playing against a SH team.
              Despite that, Tamerlin, I'm still willing to lend you some Civ Gold. And at a very low rate of interest, especially pour mon professeur français.
              " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
              "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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              • #457
                Originally posted by Havak
                Surely he is not suggesting the ARU have double standards One rule for them - another rule for everyone else?

                God forbid!
                ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                • #458
                  Originally posted by Havak
                  Tamerlin really dislikes SH refs you know. Of course he is quite right - they are generally appalling for, as the laws of the game are very clear on, there is no interpretation - you are inside the laws or you are outside them.

                  Every time a ref ignores a law he is technically in the wrong. SH refs ignore more laws. It's simple maths.
                  Ooops! I forgot! The following is for NeoStar's eyes only, Havak, so kindly avert yours? Thanks muchly -

                  3. Never, never, never ever get into a debate with Havak about referees for he will invariably be wrong. At length.

                  4. As will Tamerlin, though he's very, very kind to paysans étrangers who murder his beautiful language in front of his poor, sad, disbelieving eyes.

                  It includes amongst other things an Aussie having a go at, well, Aussies. Don't you have that copyrighted Finbar?
                  Yeah well, it doesn't take a lot of common sense to agree with those at the top of that page.
                  " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                  "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                  • #459
                    I'll leave your last notion alone
                    Pity – but you were ever the cool wise head in the thread.

                    I'm actually surprised Vodaphone's still in business with the way telcos around the world have borrowed themselves into oblivion.
                    And in their case more so because they are (or recently were) shirt sponsors of the English cricket team too. How about that for poor judgement?

                    Only time will tell.
                    Well that’s true of course – but my point is still valid. I feared nothing I saw Saturday in any great measure. But then I am an optimist in some ways

                    Where on earth do you get this twaddle?
                    Fox sports mainly. What, you mean they aren’t representative?

                    Absolutely! You succumbed to NeoStar-ism, if I may be so bold.
                    Like you need my permission. Even worse, you have a point.

                    1. Never, never, never ever give Havak an opening to mention England or the Tigers or he'll drive a loaded lorry through it.

                    2. Never, never, never ever break rule #1.
                    Solid sensible rules for a happy thread.
                    It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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                    • #460
                      Originally posted by Havak
                      Pity – but you were ever the cool wise head in the thread.
                      Even more important now that you and NeoStar are going at each other like a rabid English Rose and a feral wallaby.

                      Well that’s true of course – but my point is still valid. I feared nothing I saw Saturday in any great measure. But then I am an optimist in some ways
                      That paragraph has been cut and pasted into my Scrapbook for retrieval around the end of the year.

                      Now it's 3.25pm, Havak, and time you got back to work!
                      " ... and the following morning I should see the Boks wallop the Wallabies again?" - Havak
                      "The only thing worse than being quoted in someone's sig is not being quoted in someone's sig." - finbar, with apologies to Oscar Wilde.

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                      • #461
                        Do you guys prefer this avatar or my old one? I cant decide...
                        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                        • #462
                          Rabid English rose? Now there's an image.

                          That paragraph has been cut and pasted into my Scrapbook for retrieval around the end of the year.
                          Where as I will be hopefully using all new gloatings of course.

                          I'm nearly done for the day as it happens
                          It is better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt

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                          • #463
                            Thread Closed!

                            Continue here:
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                            ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                            ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                            • #464
                              Originally posted by Caligastia
                              Thread Closed!

                              Continue here:
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                              As the man said
                              Keep on Civin'
                              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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