Police Brutality at LA

[Zoid]

I had Ashers first post in mind... But It´s good that you´re happy, Imran

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yeah, you don't want mad capitalists, do you?

[Sprayber]

1. Cops are human beings like everyone else.
2. Since Cops are accorded a certain amout of power, they should be held to a higher standard when they are proven to have committed a crime.
3. If the African American community riots they will only end up destroying their own community and serve as justification for what some racist already believe.
4. The poster who suggested targetted killings is really dumb and should be considered a candidate for culling.
5. Euro posters that claim this only happens in the US and nothing racial ever happens in their society are more deluded then they claim Americans are.
6. This case could be used for good if people will get off their ivory tower and actually hold judgement until officials have time to react. The officiers can't be tried any faster then anyone else in the criminal justice system. If you jump the gun and proclaim your judgement before everything is brought to light then you are more of a problem then bad cops or gang members will ever be because you undermine the system more. You only know what you are allowed to see by others, no more.
7. Ecthelion: You call someone a Nazi in just about ever ****ing thread I have read today. You use the term so often that it has seemed to have lost its meaning to you. I pray that most Germans aren't as numb to the meaning as you seem to be.

[chequita guevara]

Speer, the reason I said the cops need to have more respect for us is because many of them don't. There is a sense of us and them betwen cops and the public. I'm sure you're well aware of the Blue Wall of Silence. The culture of machismo is very powerful among the police. When I was at a union training meeting, I met several police officeres who told me stories about police contempt for civilians.

I'm a big believer in community policing, if its done correctly. The police need to be reintigrated into the community as well as be reminded who their bosses ultimate are.

Now, my view of cops may be tainted by what I've seen and experienced and been told. I also had ***hole cops in my small town when growing up. Had to deal with the Chicago PD, and now have to deal with the 8th deadliest police force in the country here in Jacksonville.

[blackice]

Did anyone notice the large gash on the police officers head?

[chequita guevara]

You mean the one that has no blood coming out? Yeah, I saw that. I don't believe it's a gash yet. Head's bleed like a mutha, so I'm skeptical right now.

[Al B. Sure!]

Chegitz:

I live in inner-city Philly so I know **** obviously. I mean I know how a lot of police are either incompetent bastards who only seem to like to bother teenagers or are over-zealous and brutal. I know that most people are very suspicious of the cops and don't particularily like them. I'm one of these people, too, I dont like cops cause I haven't seen them do much constructive in the past, but maybe i'm niave and feel that most of them are good people. I want police to be re-integrated as a respected part of the community but I want to achieve this via something a bit different than your means. I dont blame most cops, I guess. Aside from the racist, truly bad ones, I can understand why a lot of cops might be contemptous to civilians, because they don't see all the good people. All they know are the criminals who seem to multiply and come back on the streets again and again and frustrate them from their job of serving and protecting.


thanks

[WhiteElephants]

Maybe you two should just bust a cap in their ass?!

[Boris Godunov]

This bickering is pointless!

(hehehe, I always wanted to enter a room and say that, a la Grand Moff Tarkin... )

The thing here that is a problem with this incident are the L.A. Mayor's and Mfume's posturing and how they are asserting the cop's guilt. This is only going to hurt come trial time, as the cop's lawyers will have a field day with the idea a fair trial is impossible now. It will end up being a fiasco like the Rodney King trial was.

The demogogues need to shut up and let the law run its course, and THEN they can get their mileage out of it. Until then, they are jeopardizing the entire case against the cop.

Thank you.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Chris 62
If this is a violent race attack, why didn't the crowd members take some kind of action?

Let's see, there are of cops armed with guns and the power to arrest people. How many people would be willing to stop them from beating up a suspect?

[Tingkai]

Why is it that whenever a black man is assaulted by a white cop, people immediately start screaming "THIS ISN'T RACISM!!!"

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Albert Speer
the problem is that the riots don't accomplish anything but more problems. It does not punish racist or brutal cops nor does it prevent future ones. It's only pure anger.

You're absolutely right. Riots don't accomplish anything. The King riots inflicted more harm on the community than it did to anyone else. The same thing can be said about other riots sparked by police brutality.

Kind of makes you think about what created the anger that led people to riot.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Carver
If you call being forced to give up property you stole harassment then I guess the whites of Zimbabwe are being harassed.

Show me a white in Zimbabwe who stole the land he and those who work for him are being violently removed from. Most of them are fourth generation holders of that land.

[Sikander]

I'm having a hard time believing that any evidence which I have not yet seen in this case will be sufficient to keep that officer from being convicted of assault. That said, the Mayor and those marching to the police station chanting "No Justice, No peace!" are doing more harm than good for the exact reasons Tingkai mentions above. I realize that African Americans are reasonably more suspicious of the criminal justice system, but in this instance they are potentially creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. Riots tend to set African Americans way back in terms of race relations with all other Americans, and have been the catalyst for much of the decline and stagnation in inner city neighborhoods.

I think that the police of all people have to be held to a higher standard. Yes it's a very tough job, and dangerous. But there is no one in the criminal justice system who is more in the public eye than the police, and they have to set an example for the rest of us to aspire to. If that means that we have to fire a lot of officers and pay the good ones a lot more, then so be it.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Sikander
Riots tend to set African Americans way back in terms of race relations with all other Americans, and have been the catalyst for much of the decline and stagnation in inner city neighborhoods.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the aftermath of this attack. The black community in LA has done a lot of work to repaid the damages of the King riots. Hopefully, that work will not be destroyed.