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  • #16
    Originally posted by El Awrence


    *kisses medical school good-bye to become a dishwasher in a chinese restaurant*
    Casita China is a good restaurant... sorry...


    You can afford it, pay up. I can't. It evidently means I only deserve to be a dishwasher.
    Then you must support yourself by bailing out with loans? Because that is what your country is doing.

    You try fireing 500,000 state employees. A bloody revolution, with people running rampant killing each other, that's what you'd get. Not your so needed stability.
    I PLAYED ENOUGH TROPICO. IF YOU WANT TO SEE HOW BRUTAL I CAN BECOME YOU SHOULD SIT RIGHT NEXT TO ME WHEN I PLAY THE GAME. I have people eliminated at my own free will... what a game... and as they say absolute power corrupts absolutely. With that brutality in mind, I made an economy grow out of a ****hole 3rd world island by tough fiscal action. A bunch of people rebelled and I ended up having my soliders kill them all but at least the economy grew.

    Yeah, we should. A conservative hardliner will not only erradicate our political problems (by shooting all dissenters) they will also end our poverty problems because they'll shoot all rebellious characters too, doesn't matter if they starve.
    And you will get a liquid financial system that you can put your money in and end up like Chile which doesn't seem to be like South America. It seems to be more like Japan or Europe.

    Giancarlo, your perception on the Argentine problem is even more narrowminded than that of the IMF... perhaps you should look a little into the social situation as well as the political as well as the sociological before coming up with the 'magic recipes' that have done us so much harm in the past ten years...
    Where oh where is that $100 Billion gone to? I know you people have $100 Billion American Dollars stashed away in overseas banks... so I don't call that bad off you doshball.

    Jesus, ignorant smartarse... [/QUOTE]
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #17
      I don't have 100 billion, and lucky for those who have it abroad. All my mother's life's savings are caught in the bank, and we have neo-liberals running the economy supposedly...

      Then you must support yourself by bailing out with loans? Because that is what your country is doing.
      No I don't. I do think that the IMF should be a bit less back-dealing with its openness and its intended purposes. In fact, I am all for telling the IMF to feck off.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by El Awrence
        I don't have 100 billion, and lucky for those who have it abroad. All my mother's life's savings are caught in the bank, and we have neo-liberals running the economy supposedly...
        I don't call people who freeze bank accounts neo liberal. And don't think my family hasn't been exposed to suffering goofball. In 1936, my family on my mom's side was caught in the middle of a brutal civil war... we had nothing when the war finished. Unemployment was nearly 50% at one point, and finally dropped off in the 60s when an economic boom begun.

        No I don't. I do think that the IMF should be a bit less back-dealing with its openness and its intended purposes. In fact, I am all for telling the IMF to feck off.
        I think the IMF is also to blame. I would of never gave a dime to any of the politicans in Argentina.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #19
          Reutemann and Lopez Murphy are Argentine politicians.

          And, tough for your family, it's ancient history. The truth is, I'll be at the Presidential ballots next and I'm not voting for a man who advocated to make education an elitist thing for Argentinians.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by El Awrence
            Reutemann and Lopez Murphy are Argentine politicians.
            Well what I meant is: Menem, De La Rua with Machinea (SP?), Duhalde or any of the obviously corrupt ones. I actually respect the good job Reutemann is doing in Santa Fe was it? Tough fiscal policy leading to one of the best runned budgets in Argentina. Reutemann is an exception out of all of the corrupt politicans Argentina has. Carrio isn't corrupt but is stupid beyond hell.

            And, tough for your family, it's ancient history. The truth is, I'll be at the Presidential ballots next and I'm not voting for a man who advocated to make education an elitist thing for Argentinians.
            Then just vote for Reutemann... he will get the financial system in order like he did with his province. Just don't vote Carrio or my greatest sympathies will be with you.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #21
              Originally posted by El Awrence
              I do think that the IMF should be a bit less back-dealing with its openness and its intended purposes. In fact, I am all for telling the IMF to feck off.
              You do that. Be my guests. But don't come back knocking on our doors for more when starvation starts to get to you.

              As a taxpayer I'm happy to inform you that US & EU people are sick of paying for your little indulgences. So you borrowed all that money and spend it on whores for politicians and corruption? My heart freckin' bleeds. You'll get as much more as the denizens of Zimbabwe now that they turned all racist and cut of their own agricultural prod.

              We lent you too much money, and did we? Well, you needn't be afraid we'll keep that particular evil up any longer.

              Enjoy communism. I'm sure Castro and Kim Jong-Il will be happy to help you out - they've done such wonders for their own peoples, after all.
              "The number of political murders was a little under one million (800,000 - 900,000)." - chegitz guevara on the history of the USSR.
              "I think the real figures probably are about a million or less." - David Irving on the number of Holocaust victims.

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              • #22
                Tough fiscal policy leading to one of the best runned budgets in Argentina
                Yet the unemployed in Rosario still have to hunt for cats to have something to bring to their families to eat at night.

                I'd rather have Clean Carrio that Rotten Reutemann.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by El Awrence


                  Yet the unemployed in Rosario still have to hunt for cats to have something to bring to their families to eat at night.

                  I'd rather have Clean Carrio that Rotten Reutemann.
                  I thought Reutemann was running Santa Fe?

                  Carrio: WHAT A FREAKING JOKE? WHO WILL BE HER ECONOMIC MINISTER? YOU?!!?
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #24
                    moom, do you think the average Argentina wants your dirty money? Ha-ha. We'd happily tell you to stuff it.

                    And we could probably work out a wonderful communist deal with Cuba... food for medicine. Cuba would have solved its only problem for which people criticise Castro for "all those poor Cubans starving".

                    Moom, I also think your post is the most ignorant comment I've heard so far... I said I didn't advocate for lending money, I criticise the IMF for letting us out to dry after ten years of back-patting.

                    I also love the way you think that for some reason the people are to blame for the bankruptcy of the state (well, we are in fact, we should have overthrown the ruling class ages ago before the toast got completely carbonised).

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                    • #25
                      Blah. My geography sucks of this country, Rosario is a city in Santa Fe.

                      And we could probably work out a wonderful communist deal with Cuba... food for medicine. Cuba would have solved its only problem for which people criticise Castro for "all those poor Cubans starving".
                      Castro and his philosophy will be dead in a couple of years. Castro was nothing but an idiot.

                      Moom, I also think your post is the most ignorant comment I've heard so far... I said I didn't advocate for lending money, I criticise the IMF for letting us out to dry after ten years of back-patting.
                      I think the IMF is definitely to blame for that. Why the hell did they lend you money when the country was chugging along fine? Industrial and Manufacturing were doing fine after Domingo Cavallo did his economic miracle. Cavallo left, and the country fell into crisis. Cavallo came too late, and quite frankly should of never accepted the job.

                      I also love the way you think that for some reason the people are to blame for the bankruptcy of the state (well, we are in fact, we should have overthrown the ruling class ages ago before the toast got completely carbonised).
                      Don't blame the Private Sector! And never was I blaming the people I was blaming the public "noquis" sector. The Private sector is nearly gone. Your country is just about screwed.
                      Last edited by Giancarlo; June 25, 2002, 19:49.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #26
                        Rosario is the main city in Santa Fe...

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                        • #27
                          I knew that and post it....

                          Now this is a good economy minister:
                          http://www.cavallo.org.ar/


                          He should of been allowed to do his things without a stupid Senate blocking everything. Then you would of been okay.

                          He was so damn close before the December coup... nearly a perfect financial net in place... and needed just $5 billion more...
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #28
                            Cavallo? Creator of convertibility? Destroyer of Industry? Enactor of the curralito? Oh yes, excellent economist, even better Minister of Economy, the best we had in a long time...

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                            • #29
                              Umm he had no choice. There was a financial net in place and that was destroyed after he was overthrown. Cavallo has been freed from a witch hunt.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • #30
                                He's also an illegal arms dealer and a crook.

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