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    After reading Imran's thread, I thought I'd resurrect this old thread. Basically just post what your platform would be if you dictatorial control of your own political party. And if we get as many reguritations of the Republican platform (or Demesos ) as last time the wrath of the squirrel of doom shall be felt

    The Left Libertarian Party

    -Complete gutting of the Welfare State (including entitlements like social security) and repeal of the minimum wage.
    -Overhaul of tax code so that income tax is negative at lower income levels (so that everyone will have enough to cover the basics) and the vast majority of exemptions etc. are eliminated.
    -Incrased funding for education (perhaps a couple thousand per head subsidy for all accredited schools or expandeding the FAFSA system to primary and secondary schools).
    -Liberalization of immigration (at least doubling immigration quotas).
    -Legalization of all drugs (with necessary OUI etc. regulations) and make the bulk of perscription drugs legal for over the counter sale (with exceptions for antibiotics etc. due to the danger of antibiotic resistant strains).
    -Legalization of prostitution.
    -General regulation-smacking
    -Get "In God We Trust" off our money and assorted silly things like "national day of prayer" gotten rid of (top priority ).
    -Repeal of anti-union legislation such as the Taft-Hartley Act.
    -Expand existing tradable pollution credit schemes for environmental protection and give them big sharp pointy teeth.
    -General support for free trade (no Bush steel tarrif for example) but with basic environmental and labor standards so that we're not being undercut by slave labor.
    -Large-scale cuts in the military/national security apparatus, including the disbanding of the Office for Homeland Security and at least a 50% reduction in military personnel.
    -Elimination of military aid to undemocratic countries (inc. Israel due to occupied territories).
    -Attempt to reform the IMF (and the WB and WTO while you're at it) so that they actually helps people in the third world instead of providing what often amounts to free insurance for investors, also push for debt-relief for newer democracies so they're not saddled with debts incurred by dictators.
    -Ammend the Constitution to make the Senate elected via national Proportional Representation (keep congress as it at least for now ).
    -Rollback the 20th century accumulation of Presidential power to, at the very least, Pre New Deal levels.
    -Propgandize in favor of worker-owned companies, cooperatives, and voluntaristic libertarian socialism generally but no expropriation of the expropriators or anything .
    Stop Quoting Ben

  • #2
    American Nationalist Fascist Workers Party

    -Reduction of the size of the federal gov't; Increased power in the hands of the states
    -Tax rebates for businesses in urban areas
    -Tax rebates for businesses who hire convicted felons
    -Income tax breaks for the middle class and below (less than 60k a year)
    -Democrat-style taxes for the upper class
    -Welfare reform geared towards job training
    -Reduction of presidential, senatorial, and congressional incomes
    -Greater punishments for dead-beat fathers
    -Free job training and business school training for economic felons such as drug dealers and muggers; Freedom upon completion of courses
    -Greater emphasis on physical fitness and health in schools
    -Greater emphasis on morality and citizenship in schools
    -Formation of Hitler Youth-style organizations for inner city youth
    -Mandatory public service for citizenship rights (usually military service)
    -Moderate international free trade; Keep as many American jobs as possible
    -Anti-immigration

    What you think?


    thanks
    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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    • #3
      Speer that party is somewhat evil... Hitler style youth organizations?

      The Center-Right Moderate Militarist Party
      - Strengthen the military, strengthen the defense sector
      - National Guard should get strengthened
      - State and Local Police should be militarized
      - Border Guard should receive light tanks
      - Regressive Tax Code Adopted
      - Maintain democracy while strengthening military
      - Drastically reduce the government
      - Eliminate Death Tax
      - Death Penalty used more often
      - Tougher penalities for drug dealers
      - More money to Colombian Armed Forces
      - Maintain Free-Trade with some protectionist elements to maintain jobs
      - Keep Prositution illegal
      - Keep all forms of currently illicit drugs including marijuana illegal.
      - Strengthen DEA
      - Maintain current level of aide to Israel
      - Increase Military Aide to Strategic Countries including Egypt
      - Maintain seperation between church and state

      Now that is all the intelligence I have for this thread... whatever I post here will be spam....
      Last edited by Giancarlo; June 20, 2002, 18:54.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Albert Speer

        What you think?
        I think you're a scary fellow. (you too fez!)




        What would I do? I'd disband the party - I'd never want be a politician!
        Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse

        Do It Ourselves

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        • #5
          Me scary? No... still got some farther right elements in my beliefs... but those are easing out.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Albert Speer
            American Nationalist Fascist Workers Party

            -Reduction of the size of the federal gov't; Increased power in the hands of the states
            -Tax rebates for businesses in urban areas
            -Tax rebates for businesses who hire convicted felons
            -Income tax breaks for the middle class and below (less than 60k a year)
            -Democrat-style taxes for the upper class
            -Welfare reform geared towards job training
            -Reduction of presidential, senatorial, and congressional incomes
            -Greater punishments for dead-beat fathers
            -Free job training and business school training for economic felons such as drug dealers and muggers; Freedom upon completion of courses
            -Greater emphasis on physical fitness and health in schools
            -Greater emphasis on morality and citizenship in schools
            -Formation of Hitler Youth-style organizations for inner city youth
            -Mandatory public service for citizenship rights (usually military service)
            -Moderate international free trade; Keep as many American jobs as possible
            -Anti-immigration

            What you think?


            thanks
            We can support a larger military. Let´s build cavalry.
            Blah

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            • #7
              Spaniard:

              Tougher penalities for drug dealers
              HELL NO

              Drug dealing is an economic crime; the people who sell drugs themselves are oftentimes intelligent but poor and see no oppurtunities for them. I SAY FREE THE DRUG DEALERS after they recieve job training and a preliminary business training for the future.


              thanks
              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Albert Speer
                American Nationalist Fascist Workers Party

                -Tax rebates for businesses who hire convicted felons
                Why give felons a break?


                -Free job training and business school training for economic felons such as drug dealers and muggers; Freedom upon completion of courses
                Well, gee in that case I'd start selling drugs and mugging people.

                WOW, I got a mugging scholarship to Harvard!

                -Formation of Hitler Youth-style organizations for inner city youth

                Don't they already have this? Aren't they called gangs?
                Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                • #9
                  Tuberski:

                  So you want the convicts to be freed after the end of their sentence then have no jobs and be criminals again and again?! What the hell? We must encourage businesses to hire convicts.

                  And gangs I guess... but gangs that give community to those most likely to fail and teach them morals and citizenship. The most likely to fail will stand as the epitome of the American way of life.


                  thanks
                  "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                  "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                  • #10
                    The Moderate Libertarian Party .

                    Taxes/Economy
                    -Eliminate the income tax for the lowest 20% of wage earners (while keeping the Bush tax plan).
                    -Eliminate the Estate Tax.
                    -Eliminate the Marriage Tax.
                    -Promote Free Trade and drop our trade barriers.

                    Government
                    -Cut the bureaucracy by slashing total government jobs by 10%
                    -Slash unneccessary regulations, while strengthening regulations on accounting of profits by corporations.
                    -Eliminate the Office of Homeland Security and put the NSC above the FBI and CIA.
                    -Lower Presidential Power in favor of Congressional Power.
                    -Repeal the Amendment that allows for Direct Election of Senators (Go back to electing them from the State Senates).

                    Social Policy/Programs
                    -Legalize ALL illegal drugs (with FDA warnings on them).
                    -Increase immigration quotas significantly.
                    -Reform welfare whereby work training would play a significant role.
                    -Pass the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) guarenteeing equal rights for women.
                    -Reform Affirmative Action, where it applies to those below the poverty line and not just of some races or ethnicities.

                    Education
                    -Increase funding for education, especially higher education, so more can go to and afford college educations.
                    -Destroy the administration bureaucracy in education. Allow schools to do what they wish to educate.
                    -Promote charter schools and vouchers (with the caveat that all schools that accept vouchers cannot charge more than them).
                    -Destroy the power that the Teachers' Union have over enacting any reform in education.

                    States Rights
                    -Allow the states to decide on legal drinking ages.
                    -Allow the states to decide on prostitution laws.

                    Environment
                    -Come up with a timetable for a reduction of greenhouse gas emissions.
                    -Strengthen CAFE (Corporate Average Fuel Efficiency) standards on our automobile fleet.
                    -Stress becoming more efficient and less dependant on oil.
                    -Pump money into alternate fuel research (especially fuel cells).
                    -Sign (but don't ratify) Kyoto and work from within to change it to include industrializing countries.

                    Military
                    -Reduce military budget by 15%. Stress a lighter, smaller groups military.
                    -Go for quality rather than quantity (stress technology as we are now).
                    -Close down all unnecessary military bases that Congressmen are blocking closure (that would make a good part of the 15% budget reduction).
                    -Stress naval and air superiority.

                    Foriegn Affairs
                    -Increase funding for foriegn aid, and send it directly to the source.
                    -Join the International Criminal Court (ICC).
                    -Pay our dues to the UN in a timely and consistant manner.
                    -Make the IMF, WTO, and World Bank more open institutions.
                    -Stop supporting (rhetorically and financially) Israel, until they accept a Palestinian state and leave the West Bank.
                    -Recognize a Palestinian State with the borders being the West Bank and Gaza, and defend them against unfair Israeli incursions, while at the same time demanding free and fair democratic elections.
                    -Become more active in Peacekeeping roles where there isn't a direct US interest (ie, East Timor).
                    -End the embargo on Cuba.
                    -Support fledgling democracies in Developing States.
                    -One time elimination of the debt of third world states.
                    -Expand NATO's Mandate to become a global peacekeeping organization. Invite Russia to join.
                    -Expand NAFTA to include more Central American and South American states.


                    Is that good enough . If I come up with more I'll post them
                    Last edited by Imran Siddiqui; June 20, 2002, 19:27.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #11
                      Imran:

                      So a reduced military (without ground emphasis) will be more involved in peace-keeping... We had total air and naval superiority in Vietnam you know...
                      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Albert Speer
                        Tuberski:

                        So you want the convicts to be freed after the end of their sentence then have no jobs and be criminals again and again?! What the hell? We must encourage businesses to hire convicts.
                        No, we must encourage convicts to become hireable, go to school on your own time make something of yourself. Not, "well now that you are in prison, we are going to teach you a skill."


                        And gangs I guess... but gangs that give community to those most likely to fail and teach them morals and citizenship.

                        Not that I disagree with what you are saying, but who would teach these things?
                        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                        • #13
                          So a reduced military (without ground emphasis) will be more involved in peace-keeping... We had total air and naval superiority in Vietnam you know...


                          Yep... more involved in peacekeeping. And Vietnam was a joke. We had total air and naval superiority and we fought it like it was WW2 or Korea. Smaller commando like groups would have done much better there.

                          Then again, why we were there in the first place is a question.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Albert Speer
                            Spaniard:



                            HELL NO

                            Drug dealing is an economic crime; the people who sell drugs themselves are oftentimes intelligent but poor and see no oppurtunities for them. I SAY FREE THE DRUG DEALERS after they recieve job training and a preliminary business training for the future.


                            thanks
                            Hey buddy it is my opinion and I don't care what you think. I don't listen to nazis anyways.

                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #15
                              -Repeal the Amendment that allows for Direct Election of Senators (Go back to electing them from the State Senates).

                              What do you see the advantages of this being?
                              "Let us kill the English! Their concept of individual rights could undermine the power of our beloved tyrants!"

                              ~Lisa as Jeanne d'Arc

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