European Hypocracy

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Chris 62
Come on guys, not in front of the euros.

We have to fill in the time before Asher and KH come online somehow.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Just because I'm on the pathway to the future and you are on the way to the past is no reason to be jealous .

[Sprayber]

Somehow a future dictated by those in far away places doesn't appeal to me too much.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That is because you still think of it as them.

[Sandman]

Does the UK let minor civil servants have this much power? I would think that they would have more control over their minor civil servants than this.

Minor civil servants don't have the power to negotiate something of that magnitude. I would assume that either the Defense minister or PM would be the only ones with that power.

I don't see it as a particularly large treaty, and hence one not deserving of the PMs attention. He's a hypocrite, but not to such a blatant extent. Probably negotiated by the same person that secured the abandoned airbase and fresh lavatory paper for the troops.

[Sprayber]

You have been watching Star Trek haven't you Imran?

Don't tell me you have gone gene roddenbery on us.

[chequita guevara]

Finally! A split in the right!

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Finally! A split in the right!

Compared to you, everyone is on the right.

[chequita guevara]

True.

[Imran Siddiqui]

No, I don't watch Star Trek .

I just think with the advancements in communication and travel that the nation-state is soon to be obsolete (within 200 years). A global community is arising and it bound to get closer and closer as the years pass. I wouldn't be suprised to see by 2300 a United States of Earth.

[Arrian]

I think it will take longer than that, Imran. There are a lot of compatability issues that have to be taken care of first. A LOT of 'em. But it's a nice dream.

-Arrian

[Imran Siddiqui]

300 years isn't a looong time when you consider 300 years ago the United States didn't even exist and the English owned about 1/4th of the World . Also add, no electricity, all calculations done by hand, etc. A lot can change in 300 years.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
No, I don't watch Star Trek .

I just think with the advancements in communication and travel that the nation-state is soon to be obsolete (within 200 years). A global community is arising and it bound to get closer and closer as the years pass. I wouldn't be suprised to see by 2300 a United States of Earth.

Well hell, I better get with the program if we are to be united by 2300.


The only way humanity will be united is if there is an outside threat. Barring that, there will always be those that choose a different way. Neither you or me or anyone else has a right to decided how others should choose to operate. It all sounds very nice. It would be a great coup for the world to throw off our differences. But we live in the here and now.

Simply put, we should not impose our ways on others nor should we tolerate those that seek to do that to us.

[Arrian]

In order to unify the world, there has to be a general concensus on basic values (individual freedom vs. security/stability, system of government, economic freedom versus equality, etc.). We're nowhere near that yet.

A lot can change in 300 yrs. Of course. Hell, in 300 years we may have nuked ourselves out of existence. But I think the "United Federation of Earth" or whatever will take more than 300yrs. So say I, Arrian, the great armchair prophet

-Arrian

[Sandman]

the nation-state is soon to be obsolete

It's been obsolete for decades. But these things have 'momentum'.