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  • #61
    Originally posted by Asher
    I also don't even see how someone can talk about "easy to install and uninstall". It simply cannot be made any simpler. You run the installer, click next a few times after you tell it where to put it, and it's done. To uninstall, go to Add/Remove Programs, click the program's name, click 'Remove'.
    apt .

    (for those who haven't heard... running "apt-get install [package]" in Debian GNU/Linux automatically downloads the program and all the libraries and documentation it needs and installs them. Uninstalling is just as easy.)

    Speaking of apt... I think it's time to upgrade all software on my comp... Time to run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade!
    This is Shireroth, and Giant Squid will brutally murder me if I ever remove this link from my signature | In the end it won't be love that saves us, it will be mathematics | So many people have this concept of God the Avenger. I see God as the ultimate sense of humor -- SlowwHand

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    • #62
      Exuse me, what is wrong with win me.

      i had a p166 16mb win95 machine for 4 years,
      then last year got 1000mhz athlon 512mb geforce 2mx400, with windows me.
      what is so wrong with it, it crashes, but compared with 95 it is ok, and i do multitask it a lot.
      Macs are ok, but the poor choice of games and incompatibilities make pc my choice (IHMO)
      Just my 2p.
      Which is more than a 2 cents, about one cent more.
      Which shows you learn something every day.
      formerlyanon@hotmail.com

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      • #63
        Try Windows XP. It blows Me out of the water.

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        • #64
          Asher's up to his old tricks, huh?

          Well, I have a new reason for you to start using a Mac. MS Office. Yup, MS Office v.X for OSX blows the windows version out of the water. I work in the financial industry and spend my whole day working with Word docs with numerous charts, graphs and weirdly specific formatting requirements. I use both a PC with Word and a Mac with Word and I can conclusively state that after months of exhaustive trials, Word for Mac OSX is better. It's more stable, the floating pallettes work better than the crappy toolbars, its built in paragraph numbering doesn't give random EOF errors, its redlining feature doesn't have the annoying habit of marking an entire paragraph as deleted and replaced when only the first sentence was changed, it creates pdfs without the random errors that plague its Win brother and it is better organized. And most importantly, when flipping back and forth between multiple 100+ page complex formatted documents on my iMac G3 with OSX and 256 megs of ram (i.e. nowhere near top of the line) Word doesn't crash if you flip into and out of a document while Word is doing a disk operation. The same can not be said for my IBM Thinkpad with WinXP and 256 megs of ram (yay, they upgraded me) which regularly locks doing the same operation. Why, our IT department can't tell me, but they've certainly tried to fix it.

          If Microsoft sensibly adopts its Mac team's approach to Word for its Windows version I'll be an even happier man. But for now, I'd rather be using my Mac.
          What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Echinda
            Well, I have a new reason for you to start using a Mac. MS Office. Yup, MS Office v.X for OSX blows the windows version out of the water. I work in the financial industry and spend my whole day working with Word docs with numerous charts, graphs and weirdly specific formatting requirements. I use both a PC with Word and a Mac with Word and I can conclusively state that after months of exhaustive trials, Word for Mac OSX is better. It's more stable
            I haven't had stability problems with Word 2002...

            the floating pallettes work better than the crappy toolbars
            I take it you don't know how to make floating pallettes in Office XP?

            If Microsoft sensibly adopts its Mac team's approach to Word for its Windows version I'll be an even happier man. But for now, I'd rather be using my Mac.
            Personally I can't stand the interface in Office X. It's so...gay, for lack of a better word. Too annoying and distracting.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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            • #66
              Gay!?! That is all you came up with?

              Where is Boris when you need him? He wouldn't let you get away with such scurrilous remarks.
              What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by tishco
                Exuse me, what is wrong with win me.

                i had a p166 16mb win95 machine for 4 years,
                then last year got 1000mhz athlon 512mb geforce 2mx400, with windows me.
                what is so wrong with it, it crashes, but compared with 95 it is ok, and i do multitask it a lot.
                Macs are ok, but the poor choice of games and incompatibilities make pc my choice (IHMO)
                get XP, not crash proof, but close

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                • #68
                  Yes, I have been turned off by the Apple concept. They seem waaaay too expensive, and the figures just don't knock my socks off. As I say, Apple just seem to be selling a concept, not a good system. If people are dumb enough to fall for a marketing crusade and not see the facts, more fool them!
                  Speaking of Erith:

                  "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                  • #69
                    XP is fine, I must admit that in the 9 months or whatever it is I have been using it I have not had one single system lockup whatsoever...of course I have had programs crash but XP handles them with consummate ease.
                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #70
                      i also have good experiences with XP, but i hate the new start menu's, so i changed that back to classic, another annoying thing is that you can't resize the quick launch bar, what's the point of adding more items there, if you still have to click through a menu

                      other than that, everything works fine, and the program-crashes are clean (i can continue without rebooting), although shutting down goes a bit slow...
                      <Kassiopeia> you don't keep the virgins in your lair at a sodomising distance from your beasts or male prisoners. If you devirginised them yourself, though, that's another story. If they devirginised each other, then, I hope you had that webcam running.
                      Play Bumps! No, wait, play Slings!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Lemmy
                        i also have good experiences with XP, but i hate the new start menu's, so i changed that back to classic, another annoying thing is that you can't resize the quick launch bar, what's the point of adding more items there, if you still have to click through a menu
                        You can resize it, just unlock the taskbar first.
                        Right click on any blank area on the taskbar, uncheck "lock the toolbar", and resize/move it around.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                        Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                        • #72
                          ah...excellent
                          finally i got my old setup back, thanks
                          <Kassiopeia> you don't keep the virgins in your lair at a sodomising distance from your beasts or male prisoners. If you devirginised them yourself, though, that's another story. If they devirginised each other, then, I hope you had that webcam running.
                          Play Bumps! No, wait, play Slings!

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                          • #73
                            Hehe, you find out something new every day. I was going to say that I have no problem resizing the thing when unlocked...but looks like I was beaten to it.

                            I am pleased that I can say I have no idea what the blue screen of death looks like in XP.
                            Speaking of Erith:

                            "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                            • #74
                              It's a darker shade of blue.

                              I got it once back when it was called the Whistler Beta 1. It didn't even have this new XP Interface yet, had a completely different one which they have now scrapped.

                              I force-fed it Win9x video card drivers to see what it'd do. That's the only time I've gotten the BSOD.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #75
                                Well that's a pretty silly thing to do

                                Does it look like the previous NT BSODs, which I have seen a few of?
                                Speaking of Erith:

                                "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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