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Originally posted by UberKruX
in my opinion, there are generic sterotypes for each nationality / religion / ethnicity. in the modern world it's not so much what these sterotypes are, it's more of just looking for an insult for a specific group of people.
IMHO, there are good and bad people of every race color and creed. there are great black people and there are dirty ni**ers, there are great polish people and there are goddamned polacks (i'm polish/irish/german if you care), and there are great muslim/arabic people (i have an arabic friend) and there are those dirty towel heads that blew up the WTC.To us, it is the BEAST.
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UberKrux - really REALLY harsh words there. The entire purpose of a word like "******" or "Pollack" is to offend an entire group of people. So to say that well some blacks are "******s" and some polish are "pollacks" is not what you really mean. If there are some black people that aren't good, don't call them '******'. If there are some polish people that aren't smart, don't call them 'pollacks'. That's the whole point.
People are people, judge them on an individual basis"Chegitz, still angry about the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991?
You provide no source. You PROVIDE NOTHING! And yet you want to destroy capitalism.. you criminal..." - Fez
"I was hoping for a Communist utopia that would last forever." - Imran Siddiqui
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Orange,
I'm not quite sure what you want people to suggest, though. You claim your acquaintance isn't racist, despite the racist remarks. But then you admit he's a friend of a friend, so you obviously can't know him all that well, right? So how do you know he's just mouthing off, and his intent isn't to be racist?
I mean, if he says those things, I have to take him at his word that he believes them (I don't like to assume people are liars).Tutto nel mondo è burla
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Call them names fine, but don't use racial epithets, unless you're a comedian of the target group.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Originally posted by UberKruX
i just believe that the words don't specify the whole group of people, but people of the group.Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Call them names fine, but don't use racial epithets, unless you're a comedian of the target group."I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
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It's not your place to judge what words are acceptable to others. If you use racial epthiets, you aren't saying the person is stupid or a screw up and an *******, you're saying they are inferior based on their ethnic/racial/gender identity.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Originally posted by orange
The entire purpose of a word like "******" or "Pollack" is to offend an entire group of people.
For example Poles are "polacker" (totally un-offensive) in Sweden.Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked! I've seen teams suck before, but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.
-Homer Simpson
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Originally posted by Ming
Well... they are still insulting no matter what you believe... and if you use them again here, you are toast!
che, hide my stash"I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
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Originally posted by Pavlov
Please enlighten me, why is it offending to call a Pole "Pollack"? Any hidden message in the word?
For example Poles are "polacker" (totally un-offensive) in Sweden."I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
- Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
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Originally posted by Pavlov
Please enlighten me, why is it offending to call a Pole "Pollack"? Any hidden message in the word?
For example Poles are "polacker" (totally un-offensive) in Sweden.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Originally posted by Ming
Well... they are still insulting no matter what you believe... and if you use them again here, you are toast!
While not neccesarily in a racist way, just the USE of the words is bad enough isn't it?Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!
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