Evolution: A religion?

[Ethelred]

and so you beleive something you know can be proven false?

Sure since it HASN'T been proven false and has been proven true. Just because something can be proven false IF IT WAS FALSE does not make it strange to believe it to be true since it has been proven true and not false.

a frustrated coverup agent!

You do like to make stuff up don't you. Goes with being a creationist I suppose.

[gonzo_for_civ]

Originally posted by Ethelred


Sure since it HASN'T been proven false and has been proven true. Just because something can be proven false IF IT WAS FALSE does not make it strange to believe it to be true since it has been proven true and not false.

Sounds like evolutionists don't know the definition of proven. If it's proven, it cannot be disproven, it is a fact! Therefore if it cannot be proven it is theory and nothing more.

You do like to make stuff up don't you. Goes with being a creationist I suppose.

YAAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by monkspider
Hmm, you and I have discussed this before Ethel? I once considered the theory of Noah's ark merely being allegory, as you may recall. I now think it was a localized flood, that flooded the world as Noah knew it. I think you ought to look into that theory Ethel before so quickly dismissing it.

I am not dismissing the Black Sea idea. The fact is though that the Black Sea event is not what is described in the Bible.

I don't have too look into something that I have pointed out allready do I. I know about it allready in that case don't I?

Now how about you figure out how to reconcile the reality of the Black Sea flooding with the story that is in the Bible? Can't be done unless of course you take the view that the Bible is just the words of men that didn't really know how things really happened. Which makes it no more usefull than any other book of legends, myths, and fantasy mixed in with a touch of history.

[Ned]

If evolution is religion, then religion is evolution.
But evolution is science.
Then science is religion, and religion is science.
But science is fact.
Then fact is religion, and religion is fact.
But religion is God.
Then fact is God, and God is fact.

Something is wrong here.

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov

Creationism is not testable whatsoever. Ergo, not science.

That is only true for the most general and non-religious forms of creationism. Fundamentalist Creationism makes statements about the world that can be tested. Since the world does NOT fit the world predicted by Fundamentalist Creationists then it not only can be disproven it has been disproven.

[SKILORD]

Originally posted by Ned
If evolution is religion, then religion is evolution.
But evolution is science.
Then science is religion, and religion is science.
But science is fact.
Then fact is religion, and religion is fact.
But religion is God.
Then fact is God, and God is fact.

Something is wrong here.

my point is that (in simple mathematical language)
Evolution = Religion
Evlution !=(not equal) Science
Ergo due to america's Seperation of church and state should eveolution be taught in schools? is the US gov't therefore just indoctrinating your children?

I am trying to say that just because evolution was brought forth by a scientist does not make it science. it is only a religion popular in the scientific community. (or of course a cult )

[gonzo_for_civ]

Although it has been fun teasing the evolutionists, I must go now. God bless you ya little darwinists

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by SKILORD
God created an adult world... sorry to rain on your parade but that therefore disproves nothing.

If that is what you are claiming then you making it clear that Jehovah is so deceptive he can't be trusted. You are saying here that Jehovah created the world to look exactly like its billions of years of old and life evolved over those billions of years. That makes god so dishonest I think its better to assume the Bible is what is false than to assume the world is false.

However if you want to believe in lying, devious god thats OK by me. It does fit the genocidal lunatic in the Bible anyway.

This is why Evolutionists will always be blind. Even when confronted with the evidence, they will merely say "Oh it was put up by an CREATIONIST, so I can't trust it." This is akin to covering your ears and singing Mary Had a Little Lamb loudly.

What evidence? Where is some for Creationism. Its dishonest to claim no one will believe evidence when you haven't produced any at all.

Of course dishonesty like that claim you just made is just par for the course when dealing with someone that thinks his god a liar and that is what you claimed when you said the world was created such a way that it looks vastly older that you think it is.

[SKILORD]

it has indeed been fun but i too must go now is the time for you to pull out the most pathetic arguments and say:

"aha! you can't disprove that!"

[gonzo_for_civ]

Originally posted by Ethelred


If that is what you are claiming then you making it clear that Jehovah is so deceptive he can't be trusted. You are saying here that Jehovah created the world to look exactly like its billions of years of old and life evolved over those billions of years. That makes god so dishonest I think its better to assume the Bible is what is false than to assume the world is false.

However if you want to believe in lying, devious god thats OK by me. It does fit the genocidal lunatic in the Bible anyway.



What evidence? Where is some for Creationism. Its dishonest to claim no one will believe evidence when you haven't produced any at all.

Of course dishonesty like that claim you just made is just par for the course when dealing with someone that thinks his god a liar and that is what you claimed when you said the world was created such a way that it looks vastly older that you think it is.

You missed the point. Good luck figuring it out. Good night!

[MarkG]

it's always fun reading these threads...

gonzo

If it's proven, it cannot be disproven, it is a fact!

it depends on the definition of "can"

[monkspider]

Well put Ned

[SKILORD]

Originally posted by Ethelred


If that is what you are claiming then you making it clear that Jehovah is so deceptive he can't be trusted. You are saying here that Jehovah created the world to look exactly like its billions of years of old and life evolved over those billions of years. That makes god so dishonest I think its better to assume the Bible is what is false than to assume the world is false.


However if you want to believe in lying, devious god thats OK by me. It does fit the genocidal lunatic in the Bible anyway.

it would have been dishonest had he not told us. he probably needed an adault world to support your pathetic life and billions more like it, and what's more he said in genesis that he created an adault world.

What evidence? Where is some for Creationism. Its dishonest to claim no one will believe evidence when you haven't produced any at all.

Of course dishonesty like that claim you just made is just par for the course when dealing with someone that thinks his god a liar and that is what you claimed when you said the world was created such a way that it looks vastly older that you think it is.

i meant evidenca against evolutionism bozo. night.

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by SKILORD

One day the same will be said of darwin and Origin of the Species :P

Highly unlikely since the evidence shows Darwin to have been remarkably accurate considering he had no knowledge of genetics. Darwin was not and is not the last word on evolution. Not even the first for that matter. Lamarck came before him but evidence has shown that Lamark was wrong.

By who? oh but wait, i've heard of several times it's been proven inaccurate as well.
you call us stupid. DO YOU EVEN KNOW what C14 dating entails?

I know exactly what C14 dating entails. I also know that it isn't used on fossils older than 40,000 years so it doesn't say anything about the age of the Earth except that it must be at least 40,000 years old. Older dates are done mostly with potasium-argon dating of volcanic rocks.

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by monkspider
Cute insults get you nowhere Ethel

Neither does the truth apparently. Since this thread started with an insult to intelegence don't expect me to be polite either.