Evolution: A religion?

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by SKILORD

if not just a little biased.

Well if the truth is biased than I guess the site is biased towards reality instead of book written long ago by men that were ingnorant of modern science.

The fossil record of which you speak was gained through a process proven time and again to be inaaccurate: unless of course you have something other than carbon dating backing it up. perhaps you were there?ldman:

Proven time and again to be very accurate. So has C14 dating.

geologic evidence may not be. but lets say that evidence was gathered by evlutionists. people who would take their own beleifs into account as they pretty much guessed at the date.

Lets say the evidence caused people to accept evolution since that is the fact of what happened. Even in the case of Darwin I might add. Darwin was a divinity student before he went on the Beagle.

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by SKILORD

ok so: here's the point you guys have tried to make so far:
Ecolutionist printed documents=OK factual thumbs up would never ever lie uh-uh no way siree bob.
Creationist printed documents=EVIL all lies! where do they get this stuff? honestly?!

Now back to carbon dating. without it can evolution be proven? Is it factual in the slightest bit? i haven't heard dissention on that.

No, the scientific papers describe experiments done, the data aquired and the conclusions drawn from them. You are free to disagree with conclusions and make new experiments to show they are flawed, that's how scienctific theories evolve
The creationist articles tend to be more along the lines "this is the truth, accept it". It's not evil lies, just unscientific statements

[monkspider]

That's an interesting thought Skilord, I never considered that God actually created an "adult" world. Certainly, it would be within the reach of an all-powerful diety, no? :P

[gonzo_for_civ]

SKILORD, they must be right, they counted glacier rings

Sounds like a real solid method, counting Ice...

[Boris Godunov]

God created an adult world... sorry to rain on your parade but that therefore disproves nothing.

Hehehe, explain what that means. Please. Are you postulating that, for some reason, God manufactured a world to make it LOOK a lot older than it was?

This is why Evolutionists will always be blind. Even when confronted with the evidence, they will merely say "Oh it was put up by an CREATIONIST, so I can't trust it." This is akin to covering your ears and singing Mary Had a Little Lamb loudly.

Ya know, cute word games don't help you look any more rational.

[Ethelred]

Originally posted by gonzo_for_civ


Hey genius, try reading what I was replying to.

I did. I am not a genius. It may appear that way to you because you learned so much nonsense.

[SKILORD]

Originally posted by Ethelred


Well if the truth is biased than I guess the site is biased towards reality instead of book written long ago by men that were ingnorant of modern science.

One day the same will be said of darwin and Origin of the Species :P

Proven time and again to be very accurate. So has C14 dating.

By who? oh but wait, i've heard of several times it's been proven inaccurate as well.
you call us stupid. DO YOU EVEN KNOW what C14 dating entails?

[gonzo_for_civ]

"Proven time and again to be very accurate. So has C14 dating.
"

Not really......

"Well if the truth is biased than I guess the site is biased towards reality instead of book written long ago by men that were ingnorant of modern science. "

Bias

"That's an interesting thought Skilord, I never considered that God actually created an "adult" world. Certainly, it would be within the reach of an all-powerful diety, no? :P"

WOw, that made no sense, I think he referred to the writings in the bible referring to the earth being created from age old scattered floating matter. hence, organization from chaos.

[monkspider]

Cute insults get you nowhere Ethel

[monkspider]

Ah, that's interesting too Gonzo. Things to think about.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by gonzo_for_civ
SKILORD, they must be right, they counted glacier rings

Sounds like a real solid method, counting Ice...

Make fun of it, out of ignorance, but it is a scientifically valid and accurate method.

And contrary to the lies put out by Creationists, carbon dating is not inaccurate like they claim. These a few of many dating methods.

[Ethelred]

Prove it

Too late. I allready did that.

I'm "playing" LOL with you because you will not concede your points no matter how hopeless your arguement gets. You still haven't explained how "environmental pressure caused evolution.

I made no hopeless arguements. I am not here to give you several years of education is a single post.

However to give the standard short answer.

That which survives has offspring. That which doesn't survive doesn't have offspring. Its the enviroment that kills. That which is not fit to survive in the environment ceases to have children. This is very basic and I don't see how you can deny something so obvious. Yet you must deny this to deny that the enviroment directs evolution.

[gonzo_for_civ]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Make fun of it, out of ignorance, but it is a scientifically valid and accurate method.

And contrary to the lies put out by Creationists, carbon dating is not inaccurate like they claim. These a few of many dating methods.

Glaciers could be affected by too many things for accuracy. And i've seen MANY scientists that disagree with carbon dating methods. In fact, most creationists don't run around talking about it either...

[monkspider]

You anti-theists are just being silly though.
Surely an all powerful diety can create a world that appeared as old as he saw fit. Don't ya think?
And even if he didn't see fit, there is no reason not to think that seven days of genesis didn't mean seven epochs of time. There are passages in the bible that say "a day to god is like a thousand years" and stuff like that.

[SKILORD]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov


Make fun of it, out of ignorance, but it is a scientifically valid and accurate method.

And contrary to the lies put out by Creationists, carbon dating is not inaccurate like they claim. These a few of many dating methods.

sounds like a lie put out by evolutionists.

no wait.... they'de never lie they leve that to those evil christians don't they.