Race mixing

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Tingkai


You can always count on Cali to prove the stupidity of racists.

Cali is against AA because he says race becomes part of the decision-making process.

Cali is against the 1965 immigration act because it removed race from the decision-making process.

*Cal vanishes in a puff of his own logic*

[MrFun]

Too many misperceptions in this thread from a couple people that includes Cal. But let me add my own points:

1) There is and always was a black sub-culture. Any group of people that has a different historical experience from another group of people within a country, will develop their own ways of doing things, which forms a basis of a culture.
Blacks developed their own culture from their experience with slavery and then after emancipation, blacks continued to develop their culture with this great change. To say that American blacks do not have their own culture shows ignorance.

2) I am opposed to any racial quotas used for immigration policies. Let all immigrants, regardless of ethnicity, or race, enter in the United States on an equal basis.

3) There never was, and never will be (I hope), enforced interracial marriages. I also want to add that mono-racial marriages does not automatically indicate racism either. A white person who prefers to marry another white person, is not necessarily racist, for instance.

4) Some people seem to believe that mono-culture and the elimination of diversity will be the only way to eradicate racism. I find this to be a tragic delusion. I can appreciate diversity of race and culture, while also advocating taking down the walls between the different groups.

5) Supporting affirmative action does not mean that one also supports race wars, or erecting walls between groups. AA opponents often conjure up this strawman argument to distort the claims of those who support affirmative action.

[Boris Godunov]

3) There never was, and never will be (I hope), enforced interracial marriages. I also want to add that mono-racial marriages does not automatically indicate racism either. A white person who prefers to marry another white person, is not necessarily racist, for instance.

Shhh, don't say that. You-know-who will come in, point his finger at you and start ranting about how much he hates you for asserting such a thing. You rotten person, you.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Tingkai


You can always count on Cali to prove the stupidity of racists.

Cali is against AA because he says race becomes part of the decision-making process.

Cali is against the 1965 immigration act because it removed race from the decision-making process.

Two totally different problems dont necessarily have the same solution.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Caligastia


Two totally different problems dont necessarily have the same solution.

Cali desperately tries to avoid going up in a puff of logic, but fails.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Caligastia


Two totally different problems dont necessarily have the same solution.

So Cali, you're against using race in decision-making processes because that is racist, accept when you want to keep them black and yellow folks out.

You do realize you're becoming rather pathetic, don't you?

[TCO]

I agree with Tingkai that national quotas should not be used in this way. If we want to constrain immigration, it makes more sense to restrict immigrants by some color blind test of the attributes we decide we want. For instance language ability, job skills, dedication to Amreican ideals (real basic ones like honesty and freedom, agreeable to Republicans and Democrats). But such screeens should be color blind. no quotas, one way or the other.

[David James]

Originally posted by GP
I agree with Tingkai that national quotas should not be used in this way. If we want to constrain immigration, it makes more sense to restrict immigrants by some color blind test of the attributes we decide we want. For instance language ability, job skills, dedication to Amreican ideals (real basic ones like honesty and freedom, agreeable to Republicans and Democrats).

But... since when was honesty an ideal of either Democrats or Republicans?

[MrFun]

I hope that some of you have read my latest post on the previous page.

[Clear Skies]

Originally posted by David James


But... since when was honesty an ideal of either Democrats or Republicans?

Or indeed any politician?...
(except the Liberal Democrats )

[Bosh]

Hmmm a ways up the thread in one of his less coherent bits Cal says the he favors achieving a "one race" country. How exactly are we got go about this, I wouldn't really like to know before your puff finishes dissipating

[Sandman]

Alas, racism is merely a symptom.

"Race" is the problem.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by MrFun
Too many misperceptions in this thread from a couple people that includes Cal. But let me add my own points:

1) There is and always was a black sub-culture. Any group of people that has a different historical experience from another group of people within a country, will develop their own ways of doing things, which forms a basis of a culture.
Blacks developed their own culture from their experience with slavery and then after emancipation, blacks continued to develop their culture with this great change. To say that American blacks do not have their own culture shows ignorance.

2) I am opposed to any racial quotas used for immigration policies. Let all immigrants, regardless of ethnicity, or race, enter in the United States on an equal basis.

3) There never was, and never will be (I hope), enforced interracial marriages. I also want to add that mono-racial marriages does not automatically indicate racism either. A white person who prefers to marry another white person, is not necessarily racist, for instance.

4) Some people seem to believe that mono-culture and the elimination of diversity will be the only way to eradicate racism. I find this to be a tragic delusion. I can appreciate diversity of race and culture, while also advocating taking down the walls between the different groups.

5) Supporting affirmative action does not mean that one also supports race wars, or erecting walls between groups. AA opponents often conjure up this strawman argument to distort the claims of those who support affirmative action.

Ok, most of you guys know that I rarely quote myself.
But just in case my latest post was missed on the previous page, here it is again.

[Guynemer]

MrFun, you do NOT rarely quote yourself. I think we'd all like it very much if you quoted yourself considerably less often, as a matter of fact.

[Stefu]

'ands up, folks - who else saw the title 'Race mixing', saw that the post was made by Caligastia, and thought "Hoo boy, looks like ol' Cali has made the final step into Archie Bunkerdom?"