Race mixing

[TCO]

Originally posted by David James


But... since when was honesty an ideal of either Democrats or Republicans?

This type of thinking is a copout. It excuses unethical acts by politicians with an "everybody does it" type of attitude.

[David James]

Originally posted by MrFun

4) Some people seem to believe that mono-culture and the elimination of diversity will be the only way to eradicate racism. I find this to be a tragic delusion. I can appreciate diversity of race and culture, while also advocating taking down the walls between the different groups.

I think that's deluded as well (that is, I agree with your first two sentences). But unfortunately, by "tearing down the walls" you also run the risk of eliminating diversity and creating a mono-cultural, mono-racial world. It will seem to be diverse while the process is underway, but once complete it sure won't be. You can't in the long run (decades, centuries, whatever) have both a diverse society and a fully integrated one at the same time.


As an interesting comparison with the natural world, take this example from the Sierra Club of Canada with respect to BC Salmon, specifically the last two items (The key to population health is genetic diversity and Fish farms - No friend of wild salmon).

http://bc.sierraclub.ca/Campaigns/Marine/WildSalmon.html

[David James]

Originally posted by GP

This type of thinking is a copout. It excuses unethical acts by politicians with an "everybody does it" type of attitude.

It was a joke GP! The joke was how could one expect Democrats and Republicans to agree to enshrine a principle they don't themselves abide by? But then again, they aren't honest, so maybe it wouldn't be that difficult.

[TCO]

I know its a joke. It's just reached a sad state, now.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by David James


I think that's deluded as well (that is, I agree with your first two sentences). But unfortunately, by "tearing down the walls" you also run the risk of eliminating diversity and creating a mono-cultural, mono-racial world. It will seem to be diverse while the process is underway, but once complete it sure won't be. You can't in the long run (decades, centuries, whatever) have both a diverse society and a fully integrated one at the same time.


As an interesting comparison with the natural world, take this example from the Sierra Club of Canada with respect to BC Salmon, specifically the last two items (The key to population health is genetic diversity and Fish farms - No friend of wild salmon).
http://bc.sierraclub.ca/Campaigns/Ma...ildSalmon.html

I read the section that you asked me to check out.
But I do not believe in the "all or nothing" argument. I believe that it is possible to balance productive diversity in the human population with integration.

[Aeson]

If we ever did integrate completely into one race/ethnicity I don't think it would endanger the survival of our species. There are enough genetic differences within any given race to sustain genetic diversity. We are not salmon having to deal with a vast change in environment, where one race might have a new decided advantage over the others. We form the environment to fit our needs.

From a cultural standpoint I doubt people will ever relinquish their diversity. There will always be lifestyle differences no matter how well integrated we are racially. We shouldn't avoid tearing down walls just because someone from X culture might decide to live their life in Y culture. People should have that choice. Diversity will be maintained by the individual desire to stand out, be different, and have their own identity.

Besides, culture should be like anything else. It shouldn't be forced to stagnate, but be allowed to evolve. There are many aspects of present day cultures that we would be better off without. Forcing cultural diversity just further divides us.

[chequita guevara]

Does anyone doubt my accusation that Caligastia is racist now? Hell, I'm gonna go one better. Cali's a white supremicist. There's no point in arguing with scum like this. He's not gonna change his mind. He thinks that other races are inferior, he is opposed to doing anything that would ameliorate the effects of white racism, he wants to pander to white racism by lowering or banning cetain races from immigrating. He may as well just come out and admit that he wants the US to be a whites-only country.

Go the **** back to New Zealand, you useless ****!

[TCO]

I don't know if he's a racist. Maybe he's just getting wierded out by the whole race thing. Maybe it's a NY thing...

[Ramo]

Im talking about immigration policies, not individual relationships.

There is nothing "forceful" in allowing people to live as they please, so shove your racist, authoritarian hyperbole back up your ass.

Because even with current immigration policies, it would take a very long time for the races in the US to be sufficiently mixed as to be indistinguishable, and in the meantime society pays a high price because of violence and discrimination. We both seem to have the same ideal - one race. We just disagree on how to get there.

Then why aren't you advocating unlimited immigration? Surely that's the best way to achieve ethnic homogeneity. Nevermind, I wouldn't want to get anything as unimportant as logic or justice in the way of your bigotted ideology.

Go the **** back to New Zealand, you useless ****!

Damn straight che. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Alexander's Horse]

I was going to give this thread 2/10 but I'm deducting a point for running it so close to your "I'll never troll again" thread

So 1/10.

[TCO]

Why do people always give such low troll scores. It's almost llike they want to give lower scores to more effective and hateful trolls. This is definitly more than a 1 or 2. I gave somebody a 5/10 recently...even though I hated their comment because it was original and insiciviely cutting.

I really hated Lincoln's "eating troll" but it was clearly a high scorer...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Zhu Yuanzhang
Hmmm a ways up the thread in one of his less coherent bits Cal says the he favors achieving a "one race" country. How exactly are we got go about this, I wouldn't really like to know before your puff finishes dissipating

My hunch is the "one race" he favors is whites, and how...Vell, vee have vays ov makingk zuch thingks happen...

[TCO]

I think he's lookin for some action with the sistahs!!

[Boris Godunov]

What, you think he's really down with the brown?

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
What, you think he's really down with the brown?

He seems more down in the brown stuff, aka BS.

By the way Cali, you are really pis$ing off a lot of decent people. Why don't you get out and do a little field research and come back in a few years when you have learned more than how to argue two contradictory and useless points simultaneously. Give me a few years and I'll be ready for another one of your race-baiting trolls.