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    What is the desired result of the enforced race mixing going on in the US and Europe? I mean, if these policies continue indefinitely then wont the races eventually (a long time from now I know) blend to such an extent that the end result will be one race? How does this achieve diversity?

    One could say that diversity is only a temporary phase we are going through until the "one race" situation is achieved. If this is the case, then why bother with enforced race mixing at all? We will end up as one race anyway right?

    But...

    I can see some positives in race mixing because:

    Hybridization of superior and dissimilar stocks is the secret of the creation of new and more vigorous strains. And this is true of plants, animals, and the human species. Hybridization augments vigor and increases fertility. Race mixtures of the average or superior strata of various peoples greatly increase creative potential, as is shown in the present population of the United States of North America.
    But are we taking care to mix superior and dissimilar stocks?No. Even so there are still advantages in race mixing.

    Race blending greatly contributes to the sudden appearance of new characteristics, and if such hybridization is the union of superior strains, then these new characteristics will also be superior traits.
    So, race mixing is a good thing biologically, but culturally there are disadvantages.

    As long as present-day races are so overloaded with inferior and degenerate strains, race intermingling on a large scale would be most detrimental, but most of the objections to such experiments rest on social and cultural prejudices rather than on biological considerations. Even among inferior stocks, hybrids often are an improvement on their ancestors. Hybridization makes for species improvement because of the role of the dominant genes. Racial intermixture increases the likelihood of a larger number of the desirable dominants being present in the hybrid.
    Are we moving too fast in our rush to blend the races? When you consider all the violence and discrimination that can be attributed to cultural differences and racial predjudice, its seems to me that we are. If race mixing is pursued at a more cautious pace, then perhaps we could have the best both biologically and socially.
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  • #2
    You seem to be a bit too obsessed with races.

    Why can't you just leave the issue be? Racism would be less of a problem if everyone didn't keep bringing the topic up and teaching their kids all about it.
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    • #3
      From observation of the U.S., I believe that the low class is mixing to become one race. Whites, blacks, and hispanics all seem to be merging cultures and races into one low class culture. I see this as being a future problem in the U.S., as it carries with it the possibility for creating a race based poor "caste"
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Asher
        You seem to be a bit too obsessed with races.

        Why can't you just leave the issue be? Racism would be less of a problem if everyone didn't keep bringing the topic up and teaching their kids all about it.
        I dont think it would be though. Evolution has ingrained in us to instinctually mistrust those who look different.

        I believe that many of the problems in US society come from racial predjudice and cultural differences, ignoring the problem wont make it go away.

        I think the reason Im so interested in the topic of race is because I think its an important issue, and because its something that is seldom talked about openly and honestly.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Caligastia


          I believe that many of the problems in US society come from racial predjudice and cultural differences, ignoring the problem wont make it go away.

          I think the reason Im so interested in the topic of race is because I think its an important issue, and because its something that is seldom talked about openly and honestly.
          Adding to the problem by thinking in racial terms all the time like you seem to won't make things better.

          How can racial mixing possibly go too fast? If people were suficiently mixed in the US there wouldn't be any race problems.

          You have this funny idea that there is a black culture in the US. There isn't one. You are mistaking the culture of poverty with a national background. Blacks with money have the same culture as Whites with money. The culture of money. The only real differences come in dealing with people that think in racial terms.

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          • #6
            Rascism.

            it stems, at least in part from evolution, or at least many supporting arguments can be found in that theory.

            I am highly against both, i don't understand rascism but i think that racial quotas are easily the stupidest idea in a long time, far too many times people are passed up for the less qualified in order for the company to meet this stupid quota.

            You have this funny idea that there is a black culture in the US. There isn't one. You are mistaking the culture of poverty with a national background. Blacks with money have the same culture as Whites with money. The culture of money. The only real differences come in dealing with people that think in racial terms.
            right on man.
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            • #7
              Cal - predictions are that one race will indeed eventually form. I forget where I saw it, and by what medium, but some group did a great story on it, showing us what the future 'one race' man and woman would look like...it was a very interesting story.

              There are two ways to look at it - intermixing of races take the best characteristics from both (biologically) or intermixing of races makes the new race unpure...

              i believe the former over the latter...
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              • #8
                Ethelred-
                Forcing races to mix will not stop anyone from thinking in racial terms. I believe we are ingrained to think in racial terms. We all think this way, whether we admit it or not.

                How can racial mixing possibly go too fast? If people were suficiently mixed in the US there wouldn't be any race problems.
                What you are saying is that if the races in the US were indistinguishable from each other, there would be no racial problems. One race in other words. So if one race is your ideal, why are you in favor of race mixing on such a grand scale? It seems that you can see the social value of having a nation of people who are mostly of the same race and culture, yet you support race mixing on a grand scale.

                You have this funny idea that there is a black culture in the US. There isn't one. You are mistaking the culture of poverty with a national background. Blacks with money have the same culture as Whites with money. The culture of money. The only real differences come in dealing with people that think in racial terms.
                So you think that as long as two people have the same amount of money they are of the same culture? This is obviously wrong.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by orange
                  Cal - predictions are that one race will indeed eventually form. I forget where I saw it, and by what medium, but some group did a great story on it, showing us what the future 'one race' man and woman would look like...it was a very interesting story.

                  There are two ways to look at it - intermixing of races take the best characteristics from both (biologically) or intermixing of races makes the new race unpure...

                  i believe the former over the latter...
                  So do I, but is the social cost of race mixing on a grand scale worth the biological advantage? I dont think so.
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                  • #10
                    If race mixing is pursued at a more cautious pace, then perhaps we could have the best both biologically and socially.
                    I have no idea of which fantasy world you live in, but there is no "enforced race mixing" going on in the US or Europe. I've got a secret for you: people of different ethnicities generally interbreed because they actually want to, and their business is neither yours nor the state's.

                    Are we moving too fast in our rush to blend the races? When you consider all the violence and discrimination that can be attributed to cultural differences and racial predjudice, its seems to me that we are. If race mixing is pursued at a more cautious pace, then perhaps we could have the best both biologically and socially.
                    If culural/"racial" differences cause violence and discrimination, how can rapid "race mixing" possibly be bad?
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                    • #11
                      i agree with ramo
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Caligastia
                        Ethelred-
                        Forcing races to mix will not stop anyone from thinking in racial terms. I believe we are ingrained to think in racial terms. We all think this way, whether we admit it or not.
                        What forcing? There is no forcing going on UNLESS you are calling anti-descrimination laws forcing. I don't think that way in those terms. People are individuals. I only think of people as groups when they band together.

                        What you are saying is that if the races in the US were indistinguishable from each other, there would be no racial problems. One race in other words. So if one race is your ideal, why are you in favor of race mixing on such a grand scale?
                        That question shows you think in VERY racial terms. Its smacks of bigotry.

                        My ideal is for no to give a damn. In which case there would soon be only one race. Might take a dozen generations or less. Look at Brazil for a perfect example of a society without race due to mixing.

                        It seems that you can see the social value of having a nation of people who are mostly of the same race and culture, yet you support race mixing on a grand scale.
                        I support a lack of bigotry. You seem to be a part of the problem.

                        So you think that as long as two people have the same amount of money they are of the same culture? This is obviously wrong.
                        It wasn't what I said at all so no wonder its wrong. Not surprising that you would get all wrong. I said IN THE US that blacks have the same culture as the whites EXCEPT for money and the results of bigots. People like what you apear to be are the cause of the latter.

                        In Africa people do have different cultures. Those didn't survive slavery.

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                        • #13
                          Cal,

                          What are you talking about?? There's no enforced race-mixing in terms of marriage, etc. People **** who they want ****.

                          You're getting a bit too wierded out by the whole race thing...

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                          • #14
                            Ethelred hit the nail on the head.
                            'Nuff said.
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                            • #15
                              screw diversity.

                              I'm hoping all of the human race will be come one race.

                              and people f*ck each other because they want to f*ck each other

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