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  • #76
    looks like those brit carriers. I assume it's the same model.

    funny I was under the impression they had a soviet one.
    urgh.NSFW

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    • #77
      Another question is how powerful are their warheads as in comparison to Hiroshima or Nakasaki?
      Lets always remember the passangers on United Flight 93, true heroes in every sense of the word!

      (Quick! Someone! Anyone! Sava! Come help! )-mrmitchell

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      • #78
        The Admiral Gorshkov? let me check up with my dad. ok , he's not sure , but most chances are it's a Varyag . They're good, and carry SU-27s , IIRC , but I wonder in what condition is it.
        urgh.NSFW

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        • #79
          If war erupts, this will be the best test of whether MAD is a viable doctrine for the future. I know the Europeans and the Americans do not agree on whether reliance on MAD is sufficient.
          http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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          • #80
            Well, do Pakistan and India have enough weapons to destroy each other? Nope. Then MAD doesn't apply.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • #81
              Also, if the USA can ever get that damn Missile Defense Shield working correctly it will take away from MAD (in the eyes of Europe and US), but both India and Pakistan are even close to that kind of technology.
              Lets always remember the passangers on United Flight 93, true heroes in every sense of the word!

              (Quick! Someone! Anyone! Sava! Come help! )-mrmitchell

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              • #82
                well, as all the leadership will surely die , I don't think they're crazy enough . Musharraf is not religious, so he'll probably not go for it.
                urgh.NSFW

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                • #83
                  Ok, Che has a point... how about MATHC (mutually assured three-headed children)? It's still a test of whether having nukes deters the use of nukes against you.

                  -Arrian
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #84
                    That is true, but also the question has to lay WHO is willing to use these, if they are super fundalmentalists who don't give a **** about their own lives then the idea of nukes deterring nukes would become pointless. That would our worse case scenario.
                    Lets always remember the passangers on United Flight 93, true heroes in every sense of the word!

                    (Quick! Someone! Anyone! Sava! Come help! )-mrmitchell

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                    • #85
                      Just an Update. India moved somthing like 400 armored vehicles to Khasmir. Indian aircraft are flying over there side. Pakistan does the same. Both sides seem to be talking about peace. But India says it must react. Khasmir militants vow more attacks on Indian soldiers and there families. Musharref promises to crackdown, India doubts it.

                      wholly crap, an aircraft carrier. God thats a small one, crowded too. Pakistan has a few American made destroyers. Also Pakistan has a few hundred F-16's I believe.

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                      • #86
                        I think this will be a nice test on how armies with equal troop quality will fight , with Pakistan using mostly Western technology, while India is armed with Russian tanks and planes.
                        urgh.NSFW

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                        • #87
                          You can bet that the West is rubbing it's fingers greedily at the prospect of a massive new market for weapons.

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                          • #88
                            Dalgetti, havent we tried that already? I mean, you kick the arabs ass every war. We killed the Iraqi's.....etc. I think we proved western equipment is better.


                            Pakistan is a bit outdated. Using Patton tanks and some Chinese ones. It would be a good match. But Pakistan is outnumbered somthing like 3 to 1.

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                            • #89
                              Sandman,
                              I think you are right, alot like the Iran-Iraq war, the US arms one side and the Russians the other and the only ones gaining anything in that war was the US and Russia from arms sales.
                              Lets always remember the passangers on United Flight 93, true heroes in every sense of the word!

                              (Quick! Someone! Anyone! Sava! Come help! )-mrmitchell

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                              • #90
                                We didnt arm anybody in Iran-Iraq? I dont think. We did give some money to Iraq, but not enough really to do very much, except say buy a dozen airplanes. The Russians sold 60 billion worth of equipment to Baghdad.

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