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Originally posted by Eli
Unlike Jews, muslims have not descended from one tribe.
Unlike Jews, muslims have not descended from one tribe.
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I thought Jews were descended from twelve Tribes....
Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring. -
one tribe?
but jews are those that have a jewish mama.
so if i marry a jewish girl who is from, say, moldavia and i am greek the kids would be according to you jewish whereas they would in raelity be moldavian - greek
how's that for ethnicity? apparently jewish ethnicity is based not on blood/race (thank god) but on type of religionComment
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Didn't I tell you that porn was bad? These countries should be concentrating on development and solving their very serious problems instead of wasting precious resources making smut for the purient interests of the superpowers. I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED. .........Oh, hmmmmmm.......I didn't know that position was possible. Oh my goodness, let me turn the page and......Originally posted by SlowwHand
Used as porns? Is that what this is all about?"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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Do you want to make a bet that German Jews have more genes in common with the inhabitants of Germany than they do with Iraqi Jews?Originally posted by Eli
Unlike Jews, muslims have not descended from one tribe.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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Unlike Jews, muslims have not descended from one tribe.
Neither have the Jews
. 12 tribes is the myth, and even Natan admits that there are various different ethnicities that make up the Hebraic Jews.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Yeah, but it was one nationality circa 10-7th century BC. It also is not an active missionizing faith.
Islam and Christianity on the other hand, consider it their holy duty to expand their faiths to the entire world. Hence they are multi-national, and not in the least bit ethnic.
If Irish or French is ethnic, and they are conglomerations of Gauls, Romans, Norse, Germans, and others, then there is no reason to say that Jewish can't be ethnic just because there were other tribes included beyond the original twelve, assuming they ever existed.
In this case however, India is about as democratic as Israel. There is intense favoritism given to Hindus over Muslims and Christians especially, the Financial Times had a feature on it around a week and a half ago. India's fundamentalist government is bigoted just like Israel's, but they are both democratically bigoted.John Brown did nothing wrong.Comment
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Most of the tribes went caput when the kingdom of Israel had fallen.
The only tribe left, in significant numbers, was Yehuda, Jehuda, Jews.
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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actually, genetically, most jews have shown to have distinct genetic heritage. In any case , nations arise from far more than any genetical and racial definitions.Do you want to make a bet that German Jews have more genes in common with the inhabitants of Germany than they do with Iraqi Jews?Comment
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Pah.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Much as I'd love to blame the Brits for this, they did not parition Kashmir.
They partitioned India, which is the root cause of the problem there.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."Comment
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kaputcaputQuod Me Nutrit Me DestruitComment
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"Pah.
They partitioned India, which is the root cause of the problem there."
Double Pah!
They partitioned themselves.
Britain merely gave them the option...states were given the choice of being part of a Muslim state or not.
The chap in charge of Kashmir at the time took rather a long time to come to a decision, before eventually going for India.Comment
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Triple Pah.
They did not partition themselves, if not for the British being politically biased towards the Hindus.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."Comment
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Would you rather there had been no option and that the East and West had been forced to stay in a union with the rest of India?
(oh...Quadruple Pah!
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Come on! Even a superpower needs certain type of relief now and then.They, like many third world countries, were used as porns by the US and USSR in the Cold War.
(And you could be sure that India and Pakistan were Freudianically slippery.)
When a superpower masturbates, does it mean kitten genocide?"Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
"That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the worldComment
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err...Quintuple Pah!
India's natural state is to be partitioned. A unified subcontinent is much more the exception than the rule. Even being in only three parts (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh) is anomalous--it's usually been more like a dozen. There's a ton of distinct langauges, cultures and ethnic groups, with differences greater than those in the EU.Comment
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