Official Star Wars Kicks Arse Thread

[Boris Godunov]

Sprayber, good point...leads me to my own question: Were it not a Star Wars movie, but rather its own sci-fi film with no connection to the SW universe, would people be praising it as much?

A good example is Paul Clinton, a movie reviewer for CNN. He points out how the movie was bad, but then states overtly that he is a longtime SW fan and thus gives it a passing mark. I was incensed by this, as I normally respect him as a critic. I've seen him skewer films that were better than AoTC, but he basically admits to giving it a good mark solely because it is SW and he is a SW fan. Now he has no credibility with me whatsoever.

[Lorizael]

I thought AoTC was definetely better than Ep1, but not quite as good as the first three. Little slow to start, terrible love story (it exists only to create Luke and Leia) and Anakin wasn't great.

But that's not the reason for my post.

I know that Palpatine and the Emperor (or Dark Sidious right now) are the same person. But I'm trying to remember, how is it that I know this? Do we all just think this is true or was it revealed somewhere? I have a very poor memory.

[joseph1944]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I don't think 7-9 will get made at all... but it would be interesting, in say the end of Episode 7 (or 8), when Luke turns to the Dark Side.

George said some years ago he will not make 7-9.
You will have to buy the books if they are ever written.
I like the movie a lot.
For those of you that did not like it. It made 30.1 mil. in the first 24 hrs.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Sprayber


Ewoks was Lucus's first mis step in the Star Wars saga. They suck and they ruined RTJ. The only consolation I get from RTJ is the resulting Ewok Holocaust

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/holocaust.html







And to think this site is a hobby for the guy.

Yep, that same guy wrote the AOTC ICS, which has been quoted here.

Let me quote it. The Quad-turbolasers on the Acclamator-class Republic Assualt Ship (Proto-Star Destroyers) put out the equilivant of 200 gigatons of TNT a shot ( )

I Gots to get me one of those...

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I don't think 7-9 will get made at all... but it would be interesting, in say the end of Episode 7 (or 8), when Luke turns to the Dark Side.

*****THREADJACK IN PROGRESS*******


I'm surprised you went to see a movie where the leading lady is a Evil Israeli Jewess(tm).

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[DinoDoc]

Threadjack

Originally posted by Lonestar
Let me quote it. The Quad-turbolasers on the Acclamator-class Republic Assualt Ship (Proto-Star Destroyers) put out the equilivant of 200 gigatons of TNT a shot ( )

I Gots to get me one of those...

Bah! A Constitution class heavy cruiser could kick its arse.

[Sprayber]

Re: Threadjack

Originally posted by DinoDoc


Bah! A Constitution class heavy cruiser could kick its arse.

oh yeah, lets get into the debate about which are better. Star Trek Ships or Star Wars ships.

[DinoDoc]

I don't mind if I do, Spray.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Xuenay
Time to do some Star Wars-defending.

Spoilers below.
I'm quoting a person on the Star Wars RPG mailing list here:
From the Cross sections book:
"When devising armaments and vehicles for the clone army, the Kaminoans
subcontracted the secret job to Rothanna Heavy Engineering. . . "

So it looks like the whole thing was a package deal. Troops, weapons, armor
and vehicles - all orchestrated by the Kaminoans.

I missed the part in the movie where they tell the audience to refer to the Star Wars RPG mailing list in order to understand the movie.

Originally posted by Xuenay
As another poster said, of course he'll act surprised around his allies.

That doesn't make sense either. The clones are being made for the rebellion side. So the allies would expect them. What would be surprising is that the clones are being used by the empire rather than Jett, Dooku, et al.

Originally posted by Xuenay
Yoda: "Take the Jedi we have and go help Obi-Wan. I'll go see the Kaminoans."
Sounds like they knew they were coming to me.

I don't remember that line, but I'll take your word for it.

Originally posted by Xuenay
Reinforcements from where? The combat didn't take very long, they would've had to have known in advance that a massive battle was going to break out. How? Only the Jedi knew that, so obviously Dooku couldn't have assumed that they were reinforcements for him (even moreso considering that the plan *called* for him to lose, so even if he did know, he wouldn't have called for reinforcements. In any case, he wouldn't have acted with glee).
Now that would have been a plot hole.

A simple explanation: unexpected reinforcements. Dooku might wonder why the clones have arrived, but he would still expect them to be on his side.

Originally posted by Xuenay
Well, doh. They're Jedi. Of course they're supposed to be holding their own against overwhelming odds without even breaking a sweat. Did you see the Phantom Menace?

And that's another problem with the movie. When Dooku asks the Jedi to surrender, there is no indication that the Jedi are loosing. A couple of Jedi are done, the Jedi look like they could fight another hour and wipe out the droids on their own. There doesn't seem to be any danger of the Jedi being wiped out. Afterall, like you said they are Jedi. That's why it is not a particularly suspenseful battle.

[Sprayber]

Come on Dino. Trek vessels simply cannot compare to STar Wars ships. Nothing to be ashamed of but they are just different universes. If they were in the same one, Trek would simply be overwhelmed.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Sprayber
Come on Dino. Trek vessels simply cannot compare to STar Wars ships.

Oh, please. All it took was one A-wing to take out a Super-Star Destroyer in RotJ. Add to that the fact that they rely on lasers as thier primary weaponry and you have the odds stacked against the Empire.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Oh, please. All it took was one A-wing to take out a Super-Star Destroyer in RotJ.

That has been explained as a freak occurence, one-in-a-million chance that was a result of a lot of factors happening at once. Kinda like the Titanic hitting the iceberg.

[Evil_Eric_4]

I havent seen it yet but I will-

I dont get though why everybody thinks ESB was the best.
IMHO the original was the best.
ESB with the long boring scenes on Yodas world.And Han and comp. getting chased all over the galaxy --Kinda slow if you ask me.Still good though if you consider that the whole movie was a sequel to a movie that that never intended to have a sequel AND was written as a setup for the final(or so we thought) movie.Besides I hate cliffhangers.
I mean come-on people -You all do know that the whole DV-Luke father-son thing was concocted AFTER the first movie did so well.

I really liked RTJ untill the ewoks came along-They were far worse than Jar-Jar.I was actually hoping the stormtroopers would wipe them out.

Bottom line is that these films were made for kids and I watch them for the special-effects--Certainly NOT for deep plots-character devopment-or fine acting.
That being said I will probably like it.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
That has been explained as a freak occurence, one-in-a-million chance that was a result of a lot of factors happening at once. Kinda like the Titanic hitting the iceberg.

Boris, it happened because capital ship gunners, in the SW universe, aren't able to deal effectively with fighter assault. They suffer from stormtrooper syndrome.

That is something which ST ships aren't afflicted with.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Evil_Eric_4
I dont get though why everybody thinks ESB was the best.

The Hoth Battle.