most overated PC game ever?

[Asher]

Re: most overated PC game ever?

Originally posted by reds4ever
i'd go for Half Life,

it won 101 awards, but gave future FPS an excuse to have a ****ty ammount of enemies on screen, as long there was a narrative. it took a couple of years and Serious Sam to recify the situation!

I really don't think HL was overrated.

I probably spent more time playing HL and its mods than any other game ever...

[Akka]

Originally posted by axi


Are you serious? It redifined the whole RPG genre. Not always for the best, but it did.

It was just boring to death. Really. Got yawning while playing it. It was worth playing only so that I could start Baldur 2 with the same character that finished the 1.
Fallout 1&2 and Torment, though were a revolution in RPG. Much less hype and much more brains required, though => much smaller audience.

[SuperSneak]

I'd rather watch grass grow than play that girlie game The Sims.
Civ in general seems pretty boring to me now...but I've had Combat Mission, Half Life (which I liked for the most part) and now Freedom Force to make it look like crap.

[Sava]

Yeah, I completely forgot about that stupid "The Sims" series. You can also lump Final Fantasy in there. I hate RPG's in general, though.

[SnowFire]

Sava: Then you can't really judge, can you? If you enjoy (console-style) RPGs, then pretty much the only fault with the Final Fantasy series is that the general combat engine hasn't ever had too major an overhaul since 1991. This doesn't mean much though, because Square has continued to put out innovative products that mixed things up, just not under the Final Fantasy label, which they've kept for more traditional console RPGs.

Baldur's Gate I give grudging respect for. Not exactly my type of game (I prefer the story of console RPGs over the freedom of computer RPGs), but I think it mostly deserved its rankings.

We forget it now, but Might & Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven actually got good reviews back when it came out, comparable to Baldur's Gate. It didn't deserve them, but I can't honestly say it's a bad game, merely a mediocre one that doesn't have enough respect for its source materials.

Civ3 I'd be highly tempted to write, except my feelings from reading what people say at Apolyton has caused me not to buy it. So I can't judge.

Diablo II is surprisingly addictive and a good game, and I'll stand by that. Would never have bought it had I not seen my roommate playing it, of course.

Warlords II was given highly various views, but I remember at least 1 computer gaming magazine giving it 5 stars and declaring it some kind of classic for all time. I only played the demo, and the main problem with the game is that it is outright worse to its competitor Heroes II in pretty much every way (and it has the stupidest combat engine ever for a game of this type), even if the game is okay. Still not worthy enough yet.

Myst is the easy choice, but again I haven't played enough of it, and it is supposed to be half-decent, just worse in every way except graphics from the much superior LucasArts adventure games.

Black & White may be a sucky game, but it was a noble try, and had one of the most interesting AI engines to be in a game. Another game whose virtues are best appreciated from afar, not actually playing the game.

So who does my vote go for? I say Diablo I. I can say this in all honesty because I liked Diablo II quite a bit, but Diablo I is pretty much all the filler from D2 without the meat. No skills, only 3 classes, the same easy strategy, not enough fun equipment, one dungeon which gets quite boring after awhile... probably one of the most boring games I've ever seen. All the fun of clipping your toenails. And it got great reviews for being Nethack with graphics, except without all the fun things you could do in Nethack. Diablo II is about a 100 times better than this crud.

[Guynemer]

Diablo. Yeech.

[Boris Godunov]

Empire Earth. Horrible game with so many ill-conceived notions it's sickening. And it was so promising too.

I know this won't count, since it was panned, but I have to say Ultima 9 was the single most disappointing, enraging gaming experience I ever had. Garriott did the same thing to a great franchise that Lucas is doing with Star Wars--turning it to dreck.

[monolith94]

Warlords was a classic. I remember playing the ORIGINAL warlords demo, and being astounded. You fellow do not even KNOW how much time I spent on that god-forsaken game... I got it down to the point where I could pretty much conquer 1/4th of the world in about 50 turns... Great fun.

[Jethro83]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I know this won't count, since it was panned, but I have to say Ultima 9 was the single most disappointing, enraging gaming experience I ever had. Garriott did the same thing to a great franchise that Lucas is doing with Star Wars--turning it to dreck.

How many times do I need to say it? ITS NOT THE DESIGNER'S FAULT!!! That crock of a game we call Ultima Ascension was the reason Garriott left Origin afterwards. It was an extremely promising game, but EA threatened to pull the plug if it wasn't released by Christmas 1999. Despite obviously needing much more work, Origin had no choice but to comply, since they'd already worked years on it, and it would be a senseless waste to see some greedy corporation pull the plug and waste all that effort.


Anyway, I say anything by Id, apart from Wolfenstein and DOOM is completely overrated. Especially Quake III.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by LordAzreal


How many times do I need to say it? ITS NOT THE DESIGNER'S FAULT!!! That crock of a game we call Ultima Ascension was the reason Garriott left Origin afterwards. It was an extremely promising game, but EA threatened to pull the plug if it wasn't released by Christmas 1999. Despite obviously needing much more work, Origin had no choice but to comply, since they'd already worked years on it, and it would be a senseless waste to see some greedy corporation pull the plug and waste all that effort.


Anyway, I say anything by Id, apart from Wolfenstein and DOOM is completely overrated. Especially Quake III.

While what you say is true, it is not just the bugginess that is the problem. The entire game concept and design, from start to finish, was terrible. At its core, it was a badly-conceived game. That is indeed the fault of the designers, and they share the blame with the corporate buffoons.

[Skanky Burns]

Quake II had an absolutely awesome single-player game. Well designed levels, interesting places to visit. It wasn't the be-all-and-end-all of FPS, but it was released highly polished.

I guess I'd have to say Black and White. It was probably the single most disappointing game I've ever had the misfortune to "play".

[Case]

Recent Lucasarts adventure games have tended to suck

(I'm still hanging out for Sam & Max 2)

[Moral Hazard]

On this board. I'd have to vote for Civ2, sure it's a great game, but Ctp kicked it's ass

Among all computer users, Myst it was a silly slide show and the least challenging and enthralling adventure games I've ever played. How bout the ending. Woot I get to crawl around this pathetic island, what have I been doing for the entire game. I'd like to say the Sims, but as much as I hate it. It is revolutionary.

Among hardcore gamers the Quake series. Sure it used to kick ass, but now It's tired it's old and Unreal been kicking it's ass since tournament.

[Az]

Especially Quake III.

you mean Q3 arena? It's months of mindless fun in a box. what's not to like about it? besides my fingers convulting after each multihour session.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by Assur
Max Payne, Black & White, The Sims and Civ3

/me lynches Assur

Max Payne overrated!?!? What platform(s) have you played it on? After a rash of pretty but average FPS', Max Payne was.... the prettiest (by being dark and dirty) and, surprisingly for FPS (although it was really 3rd person), actually somewhat innovative for a change. And the only FPS to stay on my hard drive for more than 2 months over the past two years.

Most overrated? Quake 3. Actually entertaining, but not to the extent of the "God of Games" title that it seems to have inerited by default. Although the Sims is most overrated in the sales figures.