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  • #91
    Actually, I thought Lord of the Flies was more credible with a bunch of american ****-faced cretins than with real children. See, real children don't actually behave according to the pseudo-christian myths propagated by the book- every time something aikin to the scenario in the book has happened the children managed to coexist peacefully and rationally. Golding, being a christian, has trouble accepting this.
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    • #92
      yep, I agree... the kids in Lord of the Flies seemed very ... I don't know a word for it, maybe some of you can help me... all that "being the best" and "being the center of everything" was so apparent, and I've never seen it to such an extent in German kids, though it always appears in American movies... I think it's all the movies themselves, combined with a culture of career and success.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Boris Godunov
        The first Tremors was brilliant, how can anyone dare mock it?

        Yes but the sequels were awful......they didnt even make the movie theatre I saw them on Sci-Fi. Apparently there have been 3. Each one the worms evolve more. Which is crap, i think. They crawled in the first. Which was cool. The second, the worms were really maggots. And smaller creatures burst out of them. The third, they flew. That right, FLEW!!!!! Whata flop.

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        • #94
          All the Tremors films were low budget sci-fi fun at it's best!

          Now Pearl Harbour is a terrible film.
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          • #95
            Battlefield Earth
            Howard the Duck
            Head Over Heels
            The American Presidents
            "Guess what? I got a fever! And the only prescription is ... more cow bell!"

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Snapcase


              Yes. I hear it got better in the second half, but up until the first hour it was a predictable, unscary and painfully boring horror which kept trying to scare you using the tried and tested "Scary Music - Footsteps in gravel - dark man sneaking - Boo! - oh, it's only the husband" tactic to induce *cough* suspense.
              Aaah, talking about bad Harrison Ford movies, anyone seen Random Hearts? Poor Ford looked just like my father in that one
              Stop Quoting Ben

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              • #97
                Moulin Rouge
                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                • #98
                  Blair Witch project, The Musketeer
                  Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Snapcase
                    I think Showgirls is severely underrated. Parts of that script are totally classic- "In america, everyone is a gynecologist" etc.
                    And frequently naked women, I just recommend putting the movie on mute.
                    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                    • Tremors is a great film for campy humor. The sequels do suck though, or so I'm told.

                      Snapcase: I happen to hate LotF too, but you paint too wide a brush about being Christian. My problem is that his scenario is ridiculously implausible and he hits you with a sledgehammer to make his point. I mean, never mind what real children allegedly do. It's quite clear that the kids in his book are slaves to the point he wants to make and don't act anything remotely close to understandably. It's easy to write books where a group/society/whatever either falls apart catastrophically or manages to hang together and triumph, but the important thing is that it has to make sense within the bounds of the plot- which LotF doesn't. So I blame him being a bad author, myself. I think a point about original sin could be done a lot better and more subtly, and in fact can be done without some kind of horrible collapse as well- just because people are born bad doesn't mean they can't fight to overcome it and be good.
                      All syllogisms have three parts.
                      Therefore this is not a syllogism.

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                      • Original sin is such a **** concept, anyway. Stupid pessimistic self-limiting christians.
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                        • Battlefield Earth
                          How to make an American Quilt (rip off of The Joy Luck Club)
                          Earth Girls are Easy
                          Driven
                          Highlander: Endgame
                          Dungeons and Dragons (that Damadar guy overacts)
                          Star Wars Holiday Special
                          Despot-(1a) : a ruler with absolute power and authority (1b) : a person exercising power tyrannically
                          Beyond Alpha Centauri-Witness the glory of Sheng-ji Yang
                          *****Citizen of the Hive****
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                          • Let's not forget the "Friday the Thirteenth " series. I can't believe they're coming out with another one.
                            "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                            • Originally posted by Snapcase
                              Actually, I thought Lord of the Flies was more credible with a bunch of american ****-faced cretins than with real children. See, real children don't actually behave according to the pseudo-christian myths propagated by the book- every time something aikin to the scenario in the book has happened the children managed to coexist peacefully and rationally. Golding, being a christian, has trouble accepting this.
                              I didn't see the remake, but there are a couple of things to consider about "The Lord of the Flies":
                              (1) They're supposed to be British "Upper Class Twits" kids, you wouldn't expect them to behave like normal kids.
                              (2) It's allegorical.
                              (3) I can't recall any similar real life incident, a group of 20 to 30 peri-adolescent boys being stranded without adult supervision for an extended period of time, ever happening. Could you provide specifics?
                              "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                              • GOSFORD PARK - Buuuuuuuuuuuuuurn the thing!
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