GP's Version of United State's History

[rah]

Yeah, this would have worked much better if you had used REAL QUOTES. As it is, I bet you end up looking more foolish than him.

RAH
1/10

[Guynemer]

I wouldn't bet against you, rah. By the way--love the avatar.

MrFun, I may not agree with 95% of what GP says, but he wouldn't make the comments that you've attributed to him. Wiglaf, maybe. Not GP.

[Az]

23 /10

gave him some points over the 'rare appearance' and the 'personal attack' clauses

he will learn.

[Drake Tungsten]

Do we really need to have people calling others out in the OT? Let's try to keep things from getting personal like this...

[Boris Godunov]

Isn't starting a forum just to draw someone into a fight a faux-pas? Seems terribly impolite!

First, Americans do tend to idolize their history too much. We like to make a lot of half-truths and myths about how wonderful everything has been and always will be. We even take the parts we know are awful and gloss over them with excuses (Sloww, as I proved statistically waaaay back in the thread about the South and slavery, it was NOT merely "a few" who owned slaves, it was a great many.)

BUT, I do not think America's problems and, in some cases, crimes are worthy of distinction over any other major superpower that has ever existed. And we certainly do a lot of things better today than the Brits were doing in India or the Dutch in Africa.

Trivia Question:

Which European Colony imported the largest number of slaves to the New World between 1500 and 1870? And which one had the smallest slave imports? Answer may be surprising.

[Arrian]

I would bet the "smallest slave imports" was the good 'ole USA, because our predecessors figured out it was easier to breed them here than import them.

As for the most... hmm... probably one of the Spanish possessions.

Un-Fun troll, by the way.

-Arrian

[Drake Tungsten]

Brazil had the most slave imports, IIRC.

[TCO]

Fun,

This is a great country. You see the flaws in the diamond and miss the sparkle.

You still need to take some historiography...(this is not just an ad hominem)

Thanks for watching my back, Rah, Rex, Boris, Guy, AS, etc. I don't think funboy means anything nasty. He's just playing around...

[TCO]

BTW, since my "GP's spiderman thread" thread has dissapeared (suspiciously...I might add), it's only right that I have a history thread at least.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by MikeH
The whole slave thing was pretty bad.
Not as bad as England though!

Slavery and Indian Policy were begun in the future USA under English rule and law.

[atawa]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
And we certainly do a lot of things better today than the Brits were doing in India or the Dutch in Africa.

Please enlight me, what exactly did we do in africa?

[Drake Tungsten]

I think he meant the Belgians. They were a bunch of right bastards.

[Arrian]

Boris, did you mean Belgium (Congo), or something else?

-Arrian

[atawa]

Thought so, we only build some settlements in South Africa untill the English kicked us out (as usual)

[SuperSneak]

I think the one thing this thread proves is that while most of us slept through history class, Mr. Fun created a rich fantasy history to dwell in.
Sorry...the world just isn't that black and white, normally...birth pains of a great nation and all that.