Where do you draw the line???

[David Floyd]

Oh, and can you guys stop flaming David Floyd? Unless you're just joking with him.

Oh, it's no biggie...I think mostly people are just ****ing around, and I'm trolling anyway

[MrFun]

Originally posted by David Floyd


Oh, it's no biggie...I think mostly people are just ****ing around, and I'm trolling anyway

Ah-ha!!! So you ARE provoking this lynch mob!

But anyway --- are you an extreme libertarian?? Or do others just perceive you to be an extreme libertarian when you're really not??

[David Floyd]

I don't consider myself extreme, but many would.

Rest assured, everything I say id what I believe, but it's fun to use my beliefs to troll people out, especially right-wingers

[MrFun]

You do a fine job in appalling us sensible moderate-liberals as well. Keep up the good work, and you might end up without my protection from the next Apolyton lynch mob.

[Sikander]

Re: Re: Where do you draw the line???

Originally posted by Boris Godunov

However, I am a huge believer that when the Founding Father's said "well-regulated," they meant it. So strident regulations on firearms is no problem for me either. You gun nuts can just wait for the FBI to do a background check, it won't hurt too bad. Unless you have something to hide, which means you shouldn't have a gun anyway. And don't get me started on cop-killer bullets.

Perhaps you could explain to me exactly what a "cop-killer" bullet is?

[David Floyd]

A "cop killer" bullet is perfectly legitimate ammo that has the added bonus of penetrating most body armor.

Felons already can't own guns, so banning certain types of ammo not only gives off a presumption of guilt, but also affects only law abiding citizens.

[MrFun]

David Floyd, my favorite nemesis --- there is no legitimacy in cop-killer bullets. Law-abiding citizens -- for the most part, have no need to kill cops.

[Juggernaut]

If you're Libertarian I'd say you draw the line at Anarcho-Capitalism, no?

[aaglo]

Re: Re: Where do you draw the line???

Originally posted by Boris Godunov

3) banning firearms -- idealistic, but totally UNREALISTIC

Not even idealistic, as I have no problems with sporting guns. In fact, hunting rifles are a must. Hunting helps keep deer and other wildlife population under control and prevents ecological damage.

says the man who lives in one of the bigges metropols on earth... oh please *wipes tears from eyes*

I think there is better way to keep wildlife population under control, and it is called HIGHWAY or FREEWAY

And exactly WHAT ecological damage you might refer to? Deers are ruining the finely balanced ecology of New York?

[Sava]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Across the line:

Regulating guns
Regulating orivate business outside of anti-fraud laws
Funding any social services
Funding foreign aid
Banning drugs
Banning any other victimless crime as well (gambling, prostitution, etc.)
Coercion

And things of that nature.

1. Without regulation on guns, society would turn into the old West. Only instead of six-shooters, everyone would have assault rifles. And since the frontier towns are cities now, there would be many times over the amount of violence. David, even with gun regulation, over 30,000 people a year are shot to death in the US. The US has the highest per capita murder rate of any Western Nation, and also the least restrictive gun laws.

2. Even at this juncture, business isn't regulated enough. With less regulation, businesses would engage in more pyramid schemes, joint monopolies, and parallel pricing scams even more than they occur today. Society would become like a feudal system. 1% of the country would hold 99% of the wealth, or more even.

3. Did you know that corporations receive more welfare money that is used in all other social programs for the lower class? And without these social programs the streets would be filled with even more drug dealers and criminals than they are today.

4. Without foreign aid, countries wouldn't be able to develop, or sustain, their economies or infrastructures. Like it or not, the capitalist system you worship has forced the US into a symbiotic dependency on foreign aid. Without aid, other countries would suffer economic collapse and in this global economy, when one country fails, other follow. That's when fascist regimes rise up. Although I don't think you'd be opposed to that.

5. OMFG, I actually agree with you.

6. HOLY SH!T IT HAPPENED TWICE... I bet the devil is making some wicked snowmen.

7. I'm not sure what you mean, please elaborate.

[SpencerH]

My line is pretty much anything that puts takes away my right to choose in favor of arbitrary government rules and regulations.

[Fidel]

i have some gripes
- gay 'marriage' (okay, but they should invent their own word)
- gay pairs adopting
- abolishment of capital punishment

two gripes at the other end:
- keeping blasphemy as a part of the penal code
- keeping religious holidays (instead, please increase the number of non-working days that people can use as they see fit)

[Jethro83]

Normally, I'm a tolerant person. But I still have my limits.

1. Misleading and deceitful governments and political parties (especially during the weeks leading up to election days)

2. Scapegoating against any legitimate demographic.

3. Tax-exempt status on religous estate.

4. Legalisation of nonsensical religious practices such as "Faith Healing".

That's all that comes to mind at this point.

[orange]

Originally posted by MrFun
David Floyd, my favorite nemesis --- there is no legitimacy in cop-killer bullets. Law-abiding citizens -- for the most part, have no need to kill cops.

Don't you understand MrFun. These bullets are ideal for killing small game. Same with Semi-automatic assault rifles, rocket propelled grenades, and of course the nuclear warhead. Not to mention that all of these can be used for protection during a break in to your house.

Get with the times!

[MrFun]

Originally posted by orange


Don't you understand MrFun. These bullets are ideal for killing small game. Same with Semi-automatic assault rifles, rocket propelled grenades, and of course the nuclear warhead. Not to mention that all of these can be used for protection during a break in to your house.

Get with the times!

Yeah -- you're right. Our society is not crazy enough for David, so that why he proposed unregulated firearms and unnecessary types of ammo.