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    France can hardly contain its contempt for that muscle-bound naif, the American hyperpower, stomping around the world in search of "evildoers." The French roll their eyes at such primitive moralism, so devoid of Gallic nuance.

    How inconvenient, then, that the same French have just put on the presidential ballot Jean-Marie Le Pen, the modern incarnation of European fascism. Le Pen defeated the Socialist prime minister for second place, making him a runoff candidate for president of the Fifth Republic.

    No matter. This will not restrain French intellectuals and foreign ministers from lecturing Americans on their simplisme -- their preference for morality over realpolitik, their reliance on military power, their fantasies about an "axis of evil" and, perhaps most unbearable, their principled support for Israel.

    Israel -- that "sh---- little country," as the French ambassador to Britain recently said at a London dinner party. "Why should we be in danger of World War III because of those people?" This contemptuous sneer at "those people" occasioned a minor scandal. No, the scandal was not the ambassador's statement but the hostess's indiscretion in revealing it -- and then adding how utterly commonplace the ambassador's sentiment had become in London's better circles.

    And not just among the cocktail set. The European "street" has lately been expressing itself on the subject of Jews as well. In France, synagogues have been burned to the ground and Jewish youths savagely attacked. In Belgium, two synagogues were firebombed, a third sprayed with bullets. A Berlin police official advised Jews, for reasons of safety, not to wear outward symbols of their religion.

    In Europe, it is not very safe to be a Jew. How could this be?

    The explanation is not that difficult to find. What we are seeing is pent-up anti-Semitism, the release -- with Israel as the trigger -- of a millennium-old urge that powerfully infected and shaped European history. What is odd is not the anti-Semitism of today but its relative absence during the past half-century. That was the historical anomaly. Holocaust shame kept the demon corked for that half-century. But now the atonement is passed. The genie is out again.

    This time, however, it is more sophisticated. It is not a blanket hatred of Jews. Jews can be tolerated, even accepted, but they must know their place. Jews are fine so long as they are powerless, passive and picturesque. What is intolerable is Jewish assertiveness, the Jewish refusal to accept victimhood. And nothing so embodies that as the Jewish state.

    What so offends Europeans is the armed Jew, the Jew who refuses to sustain seven suicide bombings in the seven days of Passover and strikes back. That Jew has been demonized in the European press as never before since, well . . . since the '30s. The liberal Italian daily La Stampa ran a cartoon of the baby Jesus, besieged by Israeli tanks, saying, "Don't tell me they want to kill me again."

    Again. And this time the Christ-killers come in tanks. Just when Europe had reconciled itself to tolerance for the passive Jew -- the Holocaust survivor who could be pitied, lionized, perhaps awarded the occasional literary prize -- along comes the Jewish state, crude and vital and above all unwilling to apologize for its own existence.

    The French were the vanguard of this modern anti-Semitism that can tolerate the Jew as victim but not as historical actor. It was 35 years ago at the outbreak of the Six Day War that Charles de Gaulle cut off French support for Israel, denouncing its audacity in fighting for its life over his objections. But he did not stop there. He later went on to famously denounce the Jews as "an elite people, sure of itself and domineering."

    The rejection of docility -- "sure of itself" -- was Israel's real crime 35 years ago. It remains Israel's crime today. Israel's recent three-week Operation Defensive Shield, the boldest and most justified Israeli military offensive since the Six Day War, provokes precisely the same reaction, though not always expressed with de Gaulle's candor.

    Three people have been chosen by the United Nations to judge Israel's actions in Jenin. Two are sons of Europe, and one of those is Cornelio Sommaruga. As former head of the International Committee of the Red Cross, Sommaruga spent 12 years ensuring that the only nation on earth to be refused admission to the International Red Cross is Israel. The problem, he said, was its symbol: "If we're going to have the Shield of David, why would we not have to accept the swastika?"

    This man will sit in judgment of the Jews. Marx was wrong when he said that history repeats itself, the first time as tragedy, the second as farce. The second time is tragedy too.
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    Well....it had to be posted.
    Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

  • #2
    Hmm, American journalists calling Europe right-wing...


    We can't dislike an immoral country without being anit-semitic?

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    • #3
      immoral? Define immoral? Like defending your country?

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      • #4
        "If we're going to have the Shield of David, why would we not have to accept the swastika?"


        This is the anti semitic remark I was referring to in one of the last threads on the issue.
        "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by faded glory
          immoral? Define immoral? Like defending your country?
          That's not the point - I don't want to enter debate over if it is or isn't. (God knows theres been enough). I mean just because Europeans dislike the Israeli state does not mean Facsism is on the rise. It's like disliking Italy and people saying you hate all Catholics...

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          • #6
            Faded Glory:

            Nope. More like terrifying a neighbour culture and destroying any necessary infrastructure to keep up their wish for an own state. Plus, destroying their camps while constructing settlements on their land, killing their women and children without giving foreign inspectors or reporters a chance to prove the opposite, claiming it's all about the war on terrorism.

            Doing all that because you know you're backed by the most powerful country in the world as well.

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            • #7
              This is like the pot calling the kettle black Jon.

              Set an example, Leave Ulster. Stop protecting a people who dislike catholics.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ecthelion
                Nope. More like terrifying a neighbour culture and destroying any necessary infrastructure to keep up their wish for an own state. Plus, destroying their camps while constructing settlements on their land, killing their women and children without giving foreign inspectors or reporters a chance to prove the opposite, claiming it's all about the war on terrorism.
                What happened Vick? You miss those days when your ancestors were massacring us and we did nothing? Or do you fell threatened? Now that Jews can nuke the **** out of you...
                "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by faded glory
                  This is like the pot calling the kettle black Jon.

                  Set an example, Leave Ulster. Stop protecting a people who dislike catholics.
                  Oh, God. British troops are there to keep the peace. The people of Northern Ireland VOTED TO REMAIN PART OF THE UK. They have lived there hundreds of years - LONGER THAN AMERICANS HAVE LIVED IN NORTH AMERICA. It is complete hypocrsy to tell us to leave Northern Ireland if you do not leave the continent.

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                  • #10
                    How is that related to the topic, Herr Zlatkin?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ecthelion

                      Doing all that because you know you're backed by the most powerful country in the world as well.

                      So what? Israel is our allies. We rightfully should protect them. As if they even need now. They are a sovieregn state. They have the right to settle these things on there own.


                      Stop railing the US. We have done more than you to get peace in the region.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by red_jon


                        Oh, God. British troops are there to keep the peace. The people of Northern Ireland VOTED TO REMAIN PART OF THE UK. They have lived there hundreds of years - LONGER THAN AMERICANS HAVE LIVED IN NORTH AMERICA. It is complete hypocrsy to tell us to leave Northern Ireland if you do not leave the continent.

                        how? You have, in your own ways done what you claim Israel is doing.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by red_jon


                          Oh, God. British troops are there to keep the peace. The people of Northern Ireland VOTED TO REMAIN PART OF THE UK. They have lived there hundreds of years - LONGER THAN AMERICANS HAVE LIVED IN NORTH AMERICA. It is complete hypocrsy to tell us to leave Northern Ireland if you do not leave the continent.

                          I need a quick lesson in history. How did the Brits got there? And when?
                          "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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                          • #14
                            YOU most certainly haven't done anything to settle peace there.

                            And then, since when have countries been allowed to do whatever they felt like just ebcause they're souvereign states? so is Yugoslavia, yet they were bombed back into the stone age, and it seems some people are proud of that.

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                            • #15
                              Not only this, Irsael is acting to stop terrorist acts. And its working...isnt it?

                              Didnt the UK do somthing similiar when an IRA attack happens???

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