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Originally posted by Ramo
Then you have no argument.
Then you have no argument.
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...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
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"Being gay isn't a mental disorder."Where did you get that idea from?
Why bring it up in the first place?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Goddammit Caligastia. Will you quit being sensible and making statements I agree with? I have enough problems as it is, without you fouling up my whole perception of the world."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund FreudComment
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The appropriate analogy would be substance preference.And substance abuse is a mental disorder, Ramo."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-BokononComment
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I'm sorry, but that statement made no grammatical sense to me. Can you try again?"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund FreudComment
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Drake was talking about an example where being in prison drove someone nuts which caused them to become gay.Originally posted by Ramo
Why bring it up in the first place?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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I agree with you here 100%Originally posted by SlowwHand
True, but also another reason to let priests marry, unless you want all homosexual priests.
"The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796Comment
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Originally posted by Guynemer
Goddammit Caligastia. Will you quit being sensible and making statements I agree with? I have enough problems as it is, without you fouling up my whole perception of the world.
...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - SnottyComment
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A pedophile isnt a danger at all if he can control his impulses.
Fundamentally, it is ones actions that must determine "mental illness" not ones thoughts.I see the world through bloodshot eyes
Streets filled with blood from distant lies.Comment
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Is there any particular part of the sentence you don't understand?I'm sorry, but that statement made no grammatical sense to me. Can you try again?
The appropriate analogy to pedophilia would be substance preference, not abuse (the latter would be akin to acting on pedophilia).
I don't follow you...Drake was talking about an example where being in prison drove someone nuts which caused them to become gay."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-BokononComment
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Pedophelia or any other fetish, sexual preference, or perversion are not mental disorders.
There is nothing inheritely wrong with being attracted to kids, however there is something wrong with acting on it, because it is one of those things that can not be acted on without hurting someone else.Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse
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You asked why I brought a particular statement up and I told you.Originally posted by Ramo
I don't follow you...I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Are those pigs flying outside??
I agree with both Osweld and Ramo on a topic...god help me
I see the world through bloodshot eyes
Streets filled with blood from distant lies.Comment
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How about this then: It's a disorder because we say ao. The American Psychiatric Association classifies pedophillia as a disorder so it is one. Yes it is possible that someone could have a sexual attraction to children and never act upon it, but such a person would probably suffer because of his abnormal desires. There are a lot of mentally ill peopl who function at near normal levels. People with anxiety disorders often live normal lives, even depressed people may live near normal lives, but bopth suffer. There are a number of personality disorders, such as passive agressiveness, schizoid, paranoid, etc. They are maladaptive patterns of behavior which interferes with a person's ability to function, and in most instances the person suffers to some extent because of them. Regarding homosexuality, the APA decided that we are the problem, not the homosexuals. The association decided that most homosexuals could function normally and would not suffer from their disorder if non-homosexuals would not persecute them. The problem with pedophillia is that the object of the pedophile's desire will definately suffer if he acts upon his desires.Originally posted by Ramo
I'm just looking for a coherent definition.
The connotation I get from "mental disorder" is a lack of control over one's actions, which isn't accurate in the case of pedophilia.
It's just a different sexual preference, and should be treated as such until one acts on the preference."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!Comment
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Yes, and I don't see why the statement follows. From what I understand, drake was using "driving one nuts" as a euphemism for sexual frustration.
What are you implying about pedophilia, exactly?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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