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  • #16
    It's a stupid rule... and has no foundation in the Bible or Jesus's teachings. It was implemented much later. In the old days... the first son was the heir to the fathers estate... the second son went into the priesthood... and any other sons usually went off to war to earn their own fame and fortune (the crusades were just an excuse to get rid of potentially troublesome sons)

    By not allowing priests to marry... it solved the problem of the second son not having any children who could disrupt the claims of the children of the first son if he were to die before his father.

    That isn't really a problem anymore
    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • #17
      The celibacy rule wasnt implimented until a couple hundred years ago, correct?
      ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
      ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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      • #18
        My daughter was molested. She reported this to higher authority who did nothing. Next, a friend of hers was raped.

        "Two strikes" does not protect children!

        Ned
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        • #19
          Originally posted by drake
          Sure would beat them molesting innocent little boys if you ask me.
          I'm still not sure how you people jump from dealing with pedofiles to calling for married priests. I don't see how one follows the other.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #20
            Originally posted by DinoDoc


            Being a priest is hard. If they wanted an easy job, they should do themselves a favor and leave the Church.
            Are you Catholic, or do you just have unrelated and unnatural expectations of people and their jobs?
            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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            • #21
              You don't see a relationship between forced abstinence and pedofelia Dino?

              These people are human. Theyre not robots. All of those repressed feelings and desires need to come out somewhere. And that somewhere is often in the helpless children.

              Its like the guys who turn to sex with other guys in prison. Were they gay before they went in? No. But years upon years without any sexual contact or intimacy is enough to drive anyone nuts. And so people turn to whats available to them.

              I'm saying the guys that fondle little boys probably would never had these desires if they weren't in the situation they were in. Its an enviornment problem for them, not a genetic one.
              I see the world through bloodshot eyes
              Streets filled with blood from distant lies.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Caligastia
                The celibacy rule wasnt implimented until a couple hundred years ago, correct?
                The legislation that effectively ended optional celibacy for priests came from the Second Lateran Council under Pope Innocent II in 1139.
                Keep on Civin'
                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by drake
                  You don't see a relationship between forced abstinence and pedofelia Dino?
                  No, I don't. In light of the fact that the % of pedofile priests likely matches the % in the population at large, I don't see how that leap can be made.

                  Its like the guys who turn to sex with other guys in prison. Were they gay before they went in? No.


                  Probably not. Starchild will also tell you that they aren't gay now either.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #24
                    Wether abstinence encourages paedophilia or not, they should be allowed to marry. A religious institution should be doing all it can to promote one of our highest ideals - family life.
                    ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                    ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                    • #25
                      I should also note that married men can become priests. They are only bared from becoming bishops.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #26
                        Well if they're not gay, the same argument could be used to say that the priests arent pedophiles!

                        No, I don't. In light of the fact that the % of pedofile priests likely matches the % in the population at large, I don't see how that leap can be made.
                        Theres certainly no way to get this number, but I don't agree with that assumption at all.
                        I see the world through bloodshot eyes
                        Streets filled with blood from distant lies.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          I should also note that married men can become priests. They are only bared from becoming bishops.
                          Married men can become priests?
                          ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                          ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by drake
                            Well if they're not gay, the same argument could be used to say that the priests arent pedophiles!
                            Being gay isn't a mental disorder. Pedophilia is and I've seen no scientific research that states that it is caused by abstenence.

                            Theres certainly no way to get this number, but I don't agree with that assumption at all.
                            Based on what?
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Caligastia
                              Married men can become priests?
                              That's what I just said.
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by DinoDoc


                                That's what I just said.
                                But if youre already a priest then you cant get married?
                                ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                                ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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