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  • #91
    Originally posted by Osweld
    Pedophelia ... [is] not [a] mental disorders.
    Why not?

    Sorry about editing your post but we aren't talking about and other fetish other than paraphilia at this point and I didn't want to broaden the issue more than needed.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by DinoDoc


      Why not?
      Why don't you explain how it is.
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      • #93
        I think Dr Strangelove gave you your answer Ramo.
        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
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        • #94
          The problem with pedophillia is that the object of the pedophile's desire will definately suffer if he acts upon his desires.
          Does the APA consider greed a mental disorder?
          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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          • #95
            Originally posted by Osweld
            Why don't you explain how it is.
            I'd really like someone to provide evidence that calls the American Psychiatric Association's classification into question because it would give us a meaningful basis upon which to debate.
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #96
              Originally posted by drake
              A pedophile isnt a danger at all if he can control his impulses.

              Fundamentally, it is ones actions that must determine "mental illness" not ones thoughts.
              Thoughts can be disordered too. Schizophrenia is first and foremost a "thought disorder".
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Ramo


                Does the APA consider greed a mental disorder?
                Do you know someone who doesn't have some greed?
                "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Ramo
                  Does the APA consider greed a mental disorder?
                  Greed? No, it doesn't. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is included however.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by DinoDoc


                    Greed? No, it doesn't. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is included however.
                    Don't forget Kleptomania and Antisocial Sociopathic Personality Disorder.
                    "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                    • #100
                      Greed isn't a factor in kleptomania, IIRC.
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #101
                        Do you know someone who doesn't have some greed?
                        So if everyone but pedophiles miraculously get killed, pedophilia would no longer be a mental disorder?

                        Narcissistic Personality Disorder is included however.
                        I don't see narcissism as equivalent to greed. Narcissism is closer to being egotistical.
                        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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                        • #102
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          Greed isn't a factor in kleptomania, IIRC.
                          Picky, picky, picky.
                          "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                          • #103
                            Originally posted by Ramo
                            Narcissism is closer to being egotistical.
                            Being an egoist and being greedy are both different forms of the samething: selfishness.
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc


                              I'd really like someone to provide evidence that calls the American Psychiatric Association's classification into question because it would give us a meaningful basis upon which to debate.

                              So, I take it you can't explain why it is?

                              Or is that you are just incapable of having an original thought?




                              As for the 'American Psychiatric Association', or Strangelove's post -
                              It's a disorder because we say so...

                              such a person would probably suffer because of his abnormal desires...

                              There are a lot of mentally ill peopl who function at near normal levels...

                              People with anxiety disorders often live normal lives, even depressed people may live near normal lives...

                              Seems to me that they are concerned about little more then dictating what is to be 'normal' or accepted and what is to be 'abnormal' or deviant.

                              Quite frankly, I couldn't care less about what they have to say.
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                              • #105
                                Originally posted by DinoDoc


                                Being an egoist and being greedy are both different forms of the samething: selfishness.
                                Kapitaliesm.

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