French Elections : Will Le Pen make it to the second round?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Eli
The Jews of course. And what will the result be? A mass immigration wave of Jews to Israel.

Yes, after their property and a lot of their money gets taken away.

Nice to see that you are actively willing to sacrifice your own people's happiness just for your political aims. You are truly scum.

Do you think that he thinks that muslims are causing more crime?

YES! That is one of the main claims among European far-rightists that Turks, Algerians, etc... cause more crime than native Euros.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Or do you think fascism (inherently anti-semitic) stops inside one's country borders?

Well, fascism isn't inherantly anti-semitic. I mean, Mussolini's Italy wasn't anti-Jewish.

[Az]

well If that happens:

then:

-massive support to arabs to crush Israel
-Israel still wins.
-Arabs still whine.

[Bereta_Eder]

Immigrants (muslims non muslims mean nothing) do cause more crime. But that means nothing and is easily explained.
The question is to address the problem not to overkill.

[Eli]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Yes, after their property and a lot of their money gets taken away.

I think the lesson from the holocaust was learned. This time they will not be waiting till the last minute.

[Imran Siddiqui]

-massive support to arabs to crush Israel
-Israel still wins.

Not this time... not with the vast increases in technology in the Arab world. This time, Egypt itself could probably hold Israel in a stalemate.

[Az]

YES! That is one of the main claims among European far-rightists that Turks, Algerians, etc... cause more crime than native Euros.

I meant more than other immigrants...

[Bereta_Eder]

Heh, first time I hear it...

Nope. There is no basis for that. No studies support it.


And again you have to take into account each country, its history, its relations with other countries....


This is a big subject that can't be contained in a general argument.

fact is these people are anti-immigration. Period. It's just that the largest waves of immigration are muslims. that's as far as it goes.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I meant more than other immigrants...

Yes, the far right claims they do.

I think the lesson from the holocaust was learned. This time they will not be waiting till the last minute.

People don't like leaving their homes, where they've lived for ages. I think they will stay much later than you'd think.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

I meant more than other immigrants...

Yes, the far right claims they do.

Where? In which country do they claim that?

[Imran Siddiqui]

France, Germany...

In Germany it is the Turks, in France the Algerians.

[Az]

you've apparently misunderstood me completely.

It's not my opinion. It's the opinion that people around here have about Le Pen. I don't think that he thinks that muslims are especially criminalistic, I think he thinks this way about all imigrants.

and I don't think that north african muslims are the majority of the immigrants to france.

[Az]

The jews in france haven't mostly lived there for ages. The Nazis took care of them . the ones there are people that immigrated in the 50s from northen Africa, leaving the new-born Arab countries.

[Imran Siddiqui]

and I don't think that north african muslims are the majority of the immigrants to france.

I believe they are... and from what I've read, Le Pen seems to spend most of his time railing against the Algerians.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
France, Germany...

In Germany it is the Turks, in France the Algerians.

They are against all immigrants. Turks and Algerians are the largest immigrant groups in these countries and they happen to be muslim. In Belgium is the marocans.
Besides neo nazi attacks have happened in many other peoples who are not muslim in Germany. (including Greeks and Italians and in Sweden against Yugoslavs and people from eastern Europe) etc etc etc etc