Neo-Nazism and Muslim fundamentalism. What do you think?

[Kropotkin]

Racism and anti-semitism have a lot more to do with conservative values of the right than it has to do with socialism or liberalism.

[Ecthy]

For Kropotkin, Natan, Dalgetti and BeBro, these guys are fascists and Neo Nazis, especially those with red-crossed 2nd-Reich-map and those with the headline "fight fascists"

in case you can't see it, they're wearing said scarves

"Never again Germany... and never again German Empire"

[Ecthy]

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[Ecthy]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Racism and anti-semitism have a lot more to do with conservative values of the right than it has to do with socialism or liberalism.

that's what I was talking about but yu didn't accept it... it seems some people value points by username rather than content

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
btw, i have to intrupt a bit since I feel highly annoyed at being called stupid by Echt. since a) I didn't defend the article like Echt implies I did b) a dress code doesn't mean that they are not confused and c) Echt. don't know **** about 'skinheads'

The best policy is to let him talk and allow him to give plenty of examples of what kind person he is. Because there is no use in trying to have a coversation. Think Giancarlo.

[Ecthy]

I don't see any connection to Giancarlo. You guys are trying to tell me that these people are Neo Nazis, what's going on in my country and what I think. I'm defending my society, while Giancarlo just bashes people.

[Ecthy]

do you want me to post more "Nazis", you idiots?

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Ecthelion
that's what I was talking about but yu didn't accept it... it seems some people value points by username rather than content

Well, until this thread I did not do it, but it is definately worth a thought.

Nice pics, btw. I still fail to see how this is proof enough to ignore every other detail of the article (which you even did not read completely, as you said) and insult everyone who does not agree with your viewpoint. But if it makes you feel better continue this little crusade...

[Az]

The fact the I wear a big green hat doesn't exclude another guy from wearing it.

By that logic , the Islamic Jihad, that also wear this , and are a religious fundamentalist ultra nationalist organization are also left-wingers

[Kropotkin]

Is Echt. making any sence to anyone?

[Ecthy]

Dalgetti, I want to make this understandable even for you, let me have a try.

Burning US flags has been popular among lefties on the street, so has wearing said scarves been. Of course that doesn't exclude Neo Nazis doing that, but we're talking about tendencies in society here. The author stresses certain leanings gaining power, but whatever he saw, it was definitely no proof of growing anti-semitism. Either those were totally fooked up neo nazis that had less than no clue what they were doing since they were being pretty Antifa-ish. OR they were lefties. Which of those two possibilities is a danger to our modern societies and the Jewish people?

And BeBro - being so (author) bold is indeed a sign of not being worthy of being taken seriously. If you only stopped designing things and left your house for one minute, you could see extremist groups. And then you'd notice how silly it is to call those guys Neo Nazis.

While it is hardly a sensible act (to me) to burn another country's flag, and while there actually is such a thing as a Neo-Nazi-movement, those things don't go hand in hand with each other. The author is simplifying that to "anti-US = anti-semitism", but alas we're talking about different tendencies here, that are opposed to each other.

[Az]

a gloomy silence follows this question.

[Ecthy]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Is Echt. making any sence to anyone?

I know your spelling doesn't make any sense to me, Spotty Kropotty.

In case you lack the intellectual ability to get other people's points, then I'll explain it again, just for you: I'm trying to show you that people with coloured hair that burn US flags wearing Palestinian-style scarves are not Neo Nazis but extreme leftists (or moderate ones among the extremes if you want me to be un-general). It isn't actually that hard to get.

[Natan]

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Racism and anti-semitism have a lot more to do with conservative values of the right than it has to do with socialism or liberalism.

Racism is just factually wrong, in that it is based onn now-debunked biological theories. No serious person on either right or left believes it. As for anti-Semitism, while the nationalism of the right makes some right-wingers opposed to Jews as foriegners, leftists often oppose Jews for being different as well. Left-wing anti-Semitism certainly exists. Anti-Jewish persecutions were just as if not more nasty in the USSR than in interwar Poland, and certainly were way, way nastier than anything which happened in the United States.

[Az]

Ecthelion: that was only a single example he brought.

you have evidences coming up from people that are left-wingers, such as Snapcase , and che. I am rather unusual left-winger, so you can count me out, but don't you think you should at least read?