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  • How come that US is in the lead, I guess the extermination of native americans ranks high in collective consiousness on these forums
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    • It cracks me up to see you guys telling Chris he should learn some history. He spent years studying history while most of you guys probably just read some revisionist bull**** on the web.

      Also the accusations of bigotry amount to no more than childish name-calling. I know Chris and he is no bigot.
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      • Originally posted by Caligastia
        Also the accusations of bigotry amount to no more than childish name-calling. I know Chris and he is no bigot.
        Well, then he´s doing a hell of a job acting like one...
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        • Originally posted by Ethelred
          It was the Russian Revolution. When the minority party gets a away with calling the majority party the Minority Party reason is not in season.


          Yep, nothing but commie duplicity and Russian stupidity here. Has nothing to do with the fact that when the Russian Socialists split in 1903, those with Lenin were in the majority, and those against were in the minority.

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          • Serb "ruthless" means showing no mercy.

            and Americans... well, they always look for their interests.

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            • Originally posted by Caligastia
              I know Chris and he is no bigot.
              Nah, he's just trolling.
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              • Originally posted by Immortal Wombat

                Nah, he's just trolling.
                I dont think hes trolling, I think hes just being blunt about the way he feels. I like that.
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                • Have some person voted for their own civilization ?

                  I've seen that french have score two more points ... Are some people protecting frogs and snails here ?
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                  • Zobo, why do you have trees along the Champs d'Elysses (sp?)?

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                    • Originally posted by Caligastia
                      It cracks me up to see you guys telling Chris he should learn some history. He spent years studying history while most of you guys probably just read some revisionist bull**** on the web.
                      He holds a Master's Degree in History, IIRC.
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                      • Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola


                        He holds a Master's Degree in History, IIRC.
                        Yes, that is correct, so I think he knows what he is talking about.
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                        • Originally posted by Caligastia
                          Yes, that is correct, so I think he knows what he is talking about.
                          I've known PhD's in history who didn't know what they were talking about.
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • Nop. Crusades was a way to bring more wealth to Western countries. No more.


                            No, that was the reconquista in Spain .

                            And the French really weren't bastards, maybe to their colonial possesions, but the English were worse in that regard. Both states contributed much to the world as well, in terms of technology and philosophy (esp. political philosophy).

                            This gives a figure of 5 million for the Amazon basin alone


                            Hey, I believe it... and I believe 60 million in the whole of the Americas. I mean, the area is just simply huge! It looks smaller on the map than it really is because of the Mercator projection, but wasn't small at all. Like you said 200,000 in Tenochititlan, and that isn't even the whole of the Aztec Nation. And the Incas probably had more!

                            I've known PhD's in history who didn't know what they were talking about.


                            I'm reminded of that wonderful part of 'Good Will Hunting' here
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                            • Tell me, how many Canadians (or North Americans in general) have Indian blood?


                              You're talking to one. The Spaniards killed on a far broader scale than the French or English did. The only reason that Meso- and Southern-American native blood lives on is the far greater population density of natives in those regions.

                              Spain brought a lot to the world, but tolerance and respect for other cultures was not one of its strong suits. Probably a consequence of having to fight the Reconquista...
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                              • I knew you were going to answer that. Note that the same reason you give to justify why there is more indian blood in Latin America than in North America (which I agree with) also explains why the Spanish killed more natives than the English and French in the Americas. The number may vary but the crime is still the same. Of course that Spain brought little to no tolerance and respect to the Native American cultures. No one has ever denied that. The point you fail to acknowledge is that the English the French, the Portuguese the Dutch were no different at all.

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