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**Rogan Josh** · March 21, 2002, 11:45

Originally posted by GP
Scotland and Wales are not "sovereign states". They don't have independant armies and foreign policies. Who cares if they have their own soccer teams in the Euro Cup?

Scotland has its own parliament which makes it as least as sovereign from the UK as say Florida is from the US.

**TCO** · March 21, 2002, 14:01

Originally posted by Roland
What's the capital of the Austrian Bezirk (~destrict/county) Landeck ?

wha???

That's not one of the 9, no?

**TCO** · March 21, 2002, 14:16

Originally posted by Rogan Josh

Scotland has its own parliament which makes it as least as sovereign from the UK as say Florida is from the US.

That's exactly what I mean. Florida and Alabama are a whole different kettle of fish from the USA, Germany, etc.

***End Is Forever*** · March 21, 2002, 14:45

Hmm, quick exercise in knowledge... trying to order it roughly geographically... (and failing miserably a few states in probably

)

Alaska
Hawaii
California
Oregon
Washington
New Mexico
Nevada
Arizona
Iowa
Idaho
North Dakota
South Dakota
Nebraska
Wyoming
Texas
Indiana
Kansas
Tennessee
Louisiana
Mississippi (sp?)
Missouri
Kentucky
Michigan
Ohio
Illinois
New York
New Jersey
Rhode Island
Vermont
Connecticut
Massachusetts
North Carolina
South Carolina
Virginia
W. Virginia
Maryland
Maine
Colorado
Wisconsin
Olkahoma
Alabama
Minnesota
Florida

does DC count as a state?

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Arkansas
Delaware
Utah
Pennsylvania
New Hampshire
Georgia

The ones I couldn't remember are at the bottom. Sometimes the easiest ones are the ones you forget...

***End Is Forever*** · March 21, 2002, 15:10

The Metropolitan Counties of Greater Manchester, Merseyside, South Yorkshire, Tyne and Wear, West Midlands and West Yorkshire remain as geographical counties, but were abolished as administrative areas and replaced in 1995 with 36 Metropolitan Councils.

Which is what I argued all along...

**DinoDoc** · March 21, 2002, 15:12

Originally posted by *End Is Forever*
does DC count as a state?

Only in thier dreams.

**Ecthy** · March 21, 2002, 15:22

I'll try as many as I can think of right now without looking them up... should I forget any, tough titty... I've counted all of them up before, and I've definitely heard of each before

Washington
Oregon
California
New Mexico
Utah
North Dakota
South Dakota
Texas
Arkansas
Kansas
Iowa
Michigan
Illinois
Wyoming
Tennessee
Kentucky
Indiana
Idaho
Louisana
Florida
Georgia
Virginia
West Virginia
New York
New Jersey
Rhode Island
Maine
Vermont
Pennsylvania
Massachusetts
Mississipi
Missouri
Wisconsin

just a few of 50 so far.... let me think a little longer, but tell me any state and I'll say damn I kenw that one as well.... hmm

damn, can't think of any more right now, but I know them all

**Ecthy** · March 21, 2002, 15:22

I'll try as many as I can think of right now without looking them up... should I forget any, tough titty... I've counted all of them up before, and I've definitely heard of each before

Washington
Oregon
California
New Mexico
Utah
North Dakota
South Dakota
Texas
Arkansas
Kansas
Iowa
Michigan
Illinois
Wyoming
Tennessee
Kentucky
Indiana
Idaho
Louisana
Florida
Georgia
Virginia
West Virginia
New York
New Jersey
Rhode Island
Maine
Vermont
Pennsylvania
Massachusetts
Mississipi
Missouri
Wisconsin
Alaska
Hawaii

just a few of 50 so far.... let me think a little longer, but tell me any state and I'll say damn I kenw that one as well.... hmm

damn, can't think of any more right now, but I know them all

**Ecthy** · March 21, 2002, 15:24

yeah yeah, I added Alaska and Hawaii

Delaware! Nebraska! Oklahoma!

reading through Lindley's post makes me feel so stupid... crazy how I didn't think of those...

**Zopperoni** · March 21, 2002, 15:24

Carolina

**TCO** · March 21, 2002, 15:27

Is DanS a statehoods righter? For DC??

**Ecthy** · March 21, 2002, 15:28

I knew there was a north and south thing on the east coast (carolina that is)

**Adalbertus** · March 21, 2002, 15:59

For the middle-aged European Apolyton members, do you remember to what extent the history of United States was taught in your history courses/classes in primary education??

I'm probably what you understand as middle-aged. But as a consequence I've learned/read/seen so much that I cannot tell of everything whether I've heard it at school or not. Hm. So. Might be interesting for you: I'm German.
Early settlement of the Americas was more from the Spanish/Portuguese point of view. For New England, yes we have heard about the triangle of slavery.
Next station was the declaration of independence/human rights(and their forethinkers in Europe)/independence wars (supported by France and Prussia for obvious reasons).
Civil war,
First World War, and isolationism (mainly because of their influence on Europe), Recession
Second World War
Cold War, and USA as a super power.
I left school before the Cold War was finished.

From the Red Indians, we heard mostly about Inka and Aztecs, probably because they are not many groups of which one could try to reconstruct a substantial part of history.

Do most Europeans know all 50 of our states?

I do not. Never bothered to. I know all the German Länder but 16 is not so much. Once we had more than 300! Yeah! (No sorry, that's not factorial of 300).
Of other countries I usually know the province I'm living in if it is more than four weeks. Anyway I'm more interested in cities than in provinces. (e.g. Boston ....

Massachusetts, Chikago ....

Illinois).

quote:
Originally posted by Boddington's
What about telling us the capital of Macedonia...

eaaaaasy
in ancient times: Pella
in modern times: Thessaloniki

Third answer: Skopje. Which is the capital of the not-really-independent-but-would-like-to-be-or-perhaps-not-depending-on-who-rules-in-Belgrad Yugoslavian province Macedonia.

Stuck-up Austrian dish? Apple pie must be derived from it if it's not the same

Please, please. Go to England, have an apple pie, go to Austria, have Apfelstrudel, and note that the dough is completely different. (As usual in Europe, it is not advisable to try it somewhere else. Sometimes you'll even get different stuff with the same name.)

How about Turkey?

O yeah, with mushrooms and cognac!

Btw. It's a while since Turkey had a European capital.

Scotland has its own parliament which makes it as least as sovereign from the UK as say Florida is from the US.

As well as all of the German Länder. What is the Capital of Hessen?

(no Germans, please)

**MrFun** · March 21, 2002, 16:02

Originally posted by Ecthelion
I'll try as many as I can think of right now without looking them up... should I forget any, tough titty... I've counted all of them up before, and I've definitely heard of each before

Washington
Oregon
California
New Mexico
Utah
North Dakota
South Dakota
Texas
Arkansas
Kansas
Iowa
Michigan
Illinois
Wyoming
Tennessee
Kentucky
Indiana
Idaho
Louisana
Florida
Georgia
Virginia
West Virginia
New York
New Jersey
Rhode Island
Maine
Vermont
Pennsylvania
Massachusetts
Mississipi
Missouri
Wisconsin
Alaska
Hawaii

just a few of 50 so far.... let me think a little longer, but tell me any state and I'll say damn I kenw that one as well.... hmm

damn, can't think of any more right now, but I know them all

HEY!!

You remember Iowa! But I guess by reading where I am from, that kind of gives the answer.

So British people today, are not interested in learning about how Americans kicked ass in the Revolutionary War, and the War of 1812??

**TCO** · March 21, 2002, 17:28

Originally posted by Adalbertus

Btw. It's a while since Turkey had a European capital.

But it's still a European country...

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