Cheating Russians

[Ming]

Originally posted by Serb

Yeah, you are right.
Personally I am agreed with you.
But face the truth every, EVERY sportsman who participated in Olympic games use various medications.

And what do you base this on... where is your proof. If EVERY person was doing so... why were only a few caught.
Why don't you face the "truth"....

[Serb]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph


I think it would be better not to use any insults at all, wouldn't it? You and me already had long and hot discussions, do you remember? We did not always agree, but remained respectful. Nobody of us insulted the other. That should be the better way to communicate, between adults.

Of courses I’ve remember and I respect you, because you’ve always defend your point of view with arguments.
Did I ever use insults in our discussions? Yes, sometimes I was too emotional, and may be sometimes I’ve pump too loud in my Russian chest, but I never insult a man if I respect him.
This “person” was really driving me mad, and I’ve dropped to his level. You right I’ve shouldn’t do so.

And if you see, that somebody bullies your friend, and you don't want to be the denouncer, you are free to ask the offender, if he has some valuable arguments left, or just rants and insults.

He do not have any arguments, I've already knew that.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Ming


And what do you base this on... where is your proof. If EVERY person was doing so... why were only a few caught.
Why don't you face the "truth"....

As I’ve said earlier I think you are far away from sport. Or may be you pretend that you do not understand me.
I’ve said that every sportsman use medications. Do you know about legal and illegal medications? Do you know that line between them is very, VERY fragile.
The modern sport is contest sportsman as well it is a contest of pharmacists.

[drake]

Every sportsman doesnt use banned substances...gimme a damn break......there are people that still believe in honesty and fair play.....

[Ming]

Originally posted by Serb
I’ve said that every sportsman use medications. Do you know about legal and illegal medications? Do you know that line between them is very, VERY fragile.

And that is why there is a list of illegal medications that is provided to ALL those involved. If you use an illegal medication, you are cheating.
And that is why they test for illegal medications.
And it's good to see that only a few "sportsman" were caught using them.
Most athletes compete fairly. The ones that don't, shouldn't be allowed to compete.

[DanS]

"As I’ve said earlier I think you are far away from sport."

You've got that right. Ming is the one who deals with supermodels and other long-legged celebrities.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Ming

Then you will just have accept what happens to you... because this isn't Russia....

I am seating in my home, look at my computer, Where I am?

I'm glad you think it's cute... because the way you are going, you will probably have to survive without it

Already changed, it is sarcastic now!!! Feel better?
I’m curious about rules again. Is it allowed by rules that moderator might engage in discussions and might threat to his opponents that he can revoke the membership of his opponent?
Enlighten me please, your majesty.

P.S. Damn what I’ve just said, Oh no I am toast now

[Serb]

Originally posted by drake
Every sportsman doesnt use banned substances...gimme a damn break......there are people that still believe in honesty and fair play.....

Yes it is. I respect such people, but such people are rare. Majority is different.

[DanS]

"I am seating in my home, look at my computer, Where I am?"

You realize that all Ming needs to do is ping your IP to tell where you are at generally, right?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Ming


And that is why there is a list of illegal medications that is provided to ALL those involved. If you use an illegal medication, you are cheating.
And that is why they test for illegal medications.

You are thinking in right direction.
But check those two lists and you’ll see that difference between them is very fragile, very slight difference.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Serb
I am seating in my home, look at my computer, Where I am?

You are "visiting" the Apolyton Site. A privately owned web site.
They have the right to enforce any rules they see fit. If you don't like those rules, you don't have to visit.

I’m curious about rules again. Is it allowed by rules that moderator might engage in discussions and might threat to his opponents that he can revoke the membership of his opponent?
Enlighten me please, your majesty.

First... I have had MANY discussions on this site... and I have never restricted anybody because they have disagreed with me.
If you will notice, I never said a word like that while we were arguing the merits of this thread.
However, once Sir Ralph pointed out rules violations, that is a different story. The owners of this site thought very carefully about whether other languages would be permited. It was agreed that we trust the members to abide by the rules no matter what language they use... and that we could also trust that other members would help police rules violations in other languages, so that other languages could continue to be used.

P.S. Damn what I’ve just said, Oh no I am toast now

If you took the time to review the Apolyton Community Forum, or if you were an "old timer" here, you would know that just about every insult in English (and other languages) have been used against me... I've been called just about every name in the book.
And, nobody has ever been restricted for it.
I'm concerned about rules violations against other members and against this site. My rule is simple... call me what you want, but leave my family and other members of this site out of it.

[Serb]

Originally posted by DanS
"As I’ve said earlier I think you are far away from sport."

You've got that right. Ming is the one who deals with supermodels and other long-legged celebrities.

Celebrities?
Ming did you saw Arnold? He is amazing, the perfect example of real fair athlete. Everyone should be like him.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Serb
You are thinking in right direction.
But check those two lists and you’ll see that difference between them is very fragile, very slight difference.

The fact that there is a diffence is the key. I won't argue about how slight the difference is... or, whether there is any logic in which substance is legal or illegal.

However, the list is provided to everybody. And those are the rules everybody is playing by.

[rah]

Actually one of the drugs was not on the list due to it's, just recently being used for performance enhancement. I'm sure this drug (can't remember the name) will be on the list in the future, but it wasn't currently.

But there is a general clause about not using any performance enhanceing drugs and this was the clause they used. So there is actually some gray area here. Maybe not to me, but possible to others.

RAH

[rah]

And just for grins, I read that the Russian President chastised the head of the Russian olympic team for not defending their athletes well enough during the games. At least they're starting to blame themselves. Or is this simple scapgoating? I mean it has to be SOMEONE"S fault.

RAH