Cheating Russians

[Rogan Josh]

It was the Korean chap who I felt sorry for

[Serb]

Originally posted by Ming


Yes... bury your head in the sand... Answer the question... DO YOU DENY THAT YOU GOT CAUGHT CHEATING...

I’ve already answered this question, our protests not about this case, but for many others, because in this case (Lazutina) it will be very difficult for us to prove anything.

Yes... bury your head in the sand... Answer the question... DO YOU DENY THAT IT WAS THE WORST, THE MOST SCANDAL OLYMPIC GAMES EVER? DO YOU DENY THAT IT FIRST TIME WHEN USA ACVIEVED SUCH HIGH PLACE-THIRD IN MEDAL ACCOUNT ON WINTER OLYMPIC GAMES?

[Ming]

Originally posted by Serb
I will not, but one American already started it, but Ming closed this thread. This thread was called- Olympics+cheeting=germany Norway Russiaan

If you notice... not one person responded in a serious fashion... every post was pure spam... so it was closed for that reason.

It perfectly shows American attitude to countries which doing better then them. Notice Germany, Norge and Russia. They claims as cheaters their major competitors not for example Luxemburg or Croatia.

uhhhh... when was Russia ever doing better the USA in these Olympics.
And maybe the thread was started because that's who the IOC (not the USA) was claiming who cheated

And there you might find that Russians are not alone in their "conspiracy theory"-

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42959

And it remains a theory... again... any proof.

So why don't you answer the question. Do you deny that Russia cheated? And again, do you or anybody else have proof to support your claims that everybody cheated?

All you do is make excuses... try to point the blame somewhere else... accuse other people with no proof, yet deny that you were caught...

Maybe you should wake up and face reality for a change.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
It was the Korean chap who I felt sorry for

Of course Koreans are great, Canadians is perfect, only Russians are bastards/cheaters who can’t accept defeat properly.
Half of our team, all our leading sportsman received such attitude as this Korean chap, and even worse. You felt sorry for him, while you call us cheaters/paranoids. Thanks a lot.

[KrazyHorse]

Go get 'em Tsar Wiggovitch!

[Harovan]

Oh well, I didn't see this thread (no big loss), but if I did, I would care no more about it than for a warm, wet fart. As well as this thread, but I just wonder how you can dare to deny proven facts, that's the reason why I post this. An acceptable reaction would be, ok, regrettable both ladies got caught cheating, but that does reflect nothing to the results of the other Russian athletes, who were clean. Period. And everybody would agree. But the way you wind here, and blame everybody but Russians for lying, unfair tests, conspiring and acting cowardly is amazing.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Serb
I’ve already answered this question, our protests not about this case, but for many others, because in this case (Lazutina) it will be very difficult for us to prove anything.

Yeah... it will be difficult since he cheated. And you refuse to admit it, and just make excuses.

Yes... bury your head in the sand... Answer the question... DO YOU DENY THAT IT WAS THE WORST, THE MOST SCANDAL OLYMPIC GAMES EVER?

No... it wasn't. Actually, it's a scandal when the cheaters don't get caught. This Olympics will send the message that if you cheat, you will get caught.

DO YOU DENY THAT IT FIRST TIME WHEN USA ACVIEVED SUCH HIGH PLACE-THIRD IN MEDAL ACCOUNT ON WINTER OLYMPIC GAMES?

Why should I deny it... it's true. We won. You assume since somebody beat you, that they must have cheated. Again, you offer no proof.

Your country got caught... That's a fact. And even you claim, there is nothing to be done... and why is that. The answer is simple... it's called cheating.

[KrazyHorse]

If the IOC is so pro-NA, then why (2 or 3 olympics ago, in the summer) did Canada get 3 medals taken away from it? One of the medals (rowing) was revoked for the presence of a common cold medication in the drug test. Now you're *****ing that an actual performance-enhancing drug can get you kicked out?

Canada sucked it up and made a major commitment to ensuring that its athletes are clean. You guys need to do the same thing, and you need to do it without pointing the finger at anyone except yourselves.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Ming
And maybe the thread was started because that's who the IOC (not the USA) was claiming who cheated

And may be it shows who is in charge in IOC.

Why should I deny it... it's true. We won. You assume since somebody beat you, that they must have cheated. Again, you offer no proof.

You won.

Im tired of it, really.
Did I ever claimed that Germans, btw who actully win those games was in conspiracy against Russians?
Americans were in charge in those games, and they “helped” to their sportsman using any means, ANY. That’s why you achieved such high place.
I can accept the defeat, if it’s a fair defeat.

Your country got caught... That's a fact. And even you claim, there is nothing to be done... and why is that. The answer is simple... it's called cheating.

The court will show it. While I do not trust to your court, but this all we can do now.
Actually that’s not all we can do. I can promise to you that on next Games in Italy, on neutral ground, will kick your asses really hard.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Serb
Americans were in charge in those games, and they “helped” to their sportsman using any means, ANY. That’s why you achieved such high place.
I can accept the defeat, if it’s a fair defeat.

Again... who got caught for cheating.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Ming

Yeah... it will be difficult since he cheated. And you refuse to admit it, and just make excuses.

Perfect, you don't know what are you talking about.
Lazutina is the women, not man.
Once again our protests not about her or Danilova. Our protests about other our sportsmen. Abt, Slutskaia, etc.
I am tired of this, and I'm leaving. May be I'll return tommorow, I've enjoed speaking to such brainwashed guys who do not want to notice facts. Don't ask my which facts, you still will be unable to notice them even if I'll tell you. Btw I've allready named those facts, but only small part of them.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Serb
I've enjoed speaking to such brainwashed guys who do not want to notice facts.

The facts are really simple... The Russians got caught.
So who is the brainwashed guy here...

[Serb]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Oh well, I didn't see this thread (no big loss), but if I did, I would care no more about it than for a warm, wet fart. As well as this thread, but I just wonder how you can dare to deny proven facts, that's the reason why I post this.

Ralph,
I do not deny, that those two ladies were caught in cheating. And I am not saying that they are good or they done a good thing. I do not want to say anything about those two. The case is on investigation yet, at least for me. Until I’ll be absolutely sure that in there blood where found a traces of ILLEGAL drug, or otherwise I do not want to discuss it.
Once again-“ Kto ishet tot vsegda naidet”
I’ve talking about others sportsmans, who were treated unfair, and about fact that entire our team was treated unfair.

[datakodin]

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#1.
"Insults, flames, hatred comments, spamming, advertisements are an abuse of your priviledge to post and can result to a penalty" /Apolyton Forum FAQ/

#2.
"Ruskie is a slang term for all slavic speaking people, Croats, Bulgars, Poles, Ukrainians, and Russians"
(see post of SieGermans, 25-02-2002 18:44

#3.
The slang word - Ruskies - is used in the name of this tread. Certainly, it is insulting me and many of other Russian readers. So, it is in contradiction to #1.

#4.
Shall I expect that the tread will be renamed and the proper name for my nation will be used instead of the insulting slang word?

Sincerely Yours.

[Ming]

No problem... thread name changed.