confessions of a bigot

[Zoid]

What I said above also applies to you, Kaak. You continue to link homosexuality to child abuse, I don´t know which is worse, if you´re to stupid to tell the difference or if you´re doing it on purpose.

[drake]

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny
See Mr Knee. See Mr Knee go jerky-jerky.

[Sirotnikov]

Originally posted by Asher

Disliking people is okay, I don't like everyone myself.
But I don't make that judgement based upon their sexuality, color, religion, etc.
I get to know people for who they are as people, and then decide if I like them or not.

You don't but some do, and some will.

You're entitled to dislike them.

They have their own criterias for disliking people.

Once he leaves his sheltered preschool-esque life at Baylor and steps into the real world, he'll have to work with gay people. And if he lives this sheltered life always thinking that gays are deviant people who he doesn't like by default, he's going to end up hurting people whether he means to or not.

That's what I'm afraid of.

But if he'll limit himself to disliking them and won't discriminate - who cares?

What do all these have in common? The word PEOPLE . We all have to spend our existance on the same planet. We all come from the same line of evolution/creation/whatever.

Surely we don't hate each other because of our similarities.

We most dislike others because of our differences. Be it in opinions, behaviour, culture or height weight and skin color.

one can't judge a person's criterias for hate, I think.

But it is important to remember that while we hate others, they are people. And even though we hate them, we should treat them like people. Not more than that ( since we've already established we hate them ) but no less.

That's the difference in my book.

[David Floyd]

Atheists promote nothing

Surely you can see THAT isn't true. The atheist philosophy, or whatever word you want to use, promotes the belief that there is no God.

And you can say that Christians have gone on Crusades, bombed abortion clinics, whatever, but I'd say 1)that people who do such things aren't really Christians, and 2)for every wrong committed by a Christian I could easily name another committed by an atheist. Let's not bring Mao or Stalin or Pol Pot into this, because using extremist examples like them to bash atheists would be just as "illogically unrealistic" (ie stupid as hell) as your examples of extremist Christians.

[devilmunchkin]

I realize this may be hard for one so logical as yourself to fathom, but christianity has been a moral backbone for a couple thousand years. you can cry that christian morals aren't morals, etc, all you want, but the fact remains. Christianity has caused a vast amount of good in the day to day relations of people for a very long time. If you can't see this, then you are a fool like your friend.

but since you're a pseudo-xian, it's ok for your morals to stink like dog ****.
and you MIGHT be wrong??? as my bigot step-father says: "try again moose breath"
and as YOU say: "you're a fool."

david: maybe this will help. If there is no god what is there?
nothing.

1)that people who do such things aren't really Christians,

judge not, kind david, lest ye be judged yourself. you have no right to say who is one and who isn't, if this god really exists.

also, unlike LR (and i do disagree with some of his points): i choose to look at the individual. The only reason i pointed out any theology is because Kaak tends to use xian as an excuse when it suits him, and denies it at other times. Peter, will you deny this three times too???? Most of my friends here are devout and LOVING xians, unlike the christians of the past. We have to keep in mind that yes, the christians too were persecuted...by the romans. I think responsibility is placed upon the individual in what acts they take. SOme people are bad, they might happen to be xian, atheist, muslim...or a gopher. Xianity is part of their personlity or philosophy.
And overall, Kaak is just...well...wrong and immature and "foolish."

[David Floyd]

DM...

I think it's reasonable to say that someone who goes on a killing spree either is not a Christian in the Biblical sense, or has serious psychological problems. Either way, though, that person is not a good candidate as a person to use as an example of Christianity.

[devilmunchkin]

david: try reading judges

[David Floyd]

david: maybe this will help. If there is no god what is there?
nothing.

Maybe so.

But that isn't a pre-supposition, that's a debatable point (there being no God). Therefore atheism still pushes a certain viewpoint, that there is no God.

[Provost Harrison]

Oh can't we let this thread die. It'll take more than a bunch of Apolytoners to change their minds on how they stand in life. Sad, I know, but just hope that one day they will see the folly of their ways. Albert Speer, Kaak and all other associated bigots, just grow up.

[David Floyd]

david: try reading judges

Point A: That was Judaism not Christianity.

Point B: That was Old Testament Law, applicable only to the Israelites, because they lived in a theocracy with God as the sole king (well, until Saul, David, and Solomon anyway).

Point C: I don't concede that the Israelites' genocide was morally right, whether ordered by God or not. That isn't the point, really.

[devilmunchkin]

david: god ordered the slaying in judges. therefore, it makes no difference...if God ordered it...christians and jews worship the same god.....it's exactly the same.

[David Floyd]

Well you could also say that God DID NOT order the Crusades - those were done by greedy Popes and nobles who wanted land

Again, I'm no theologian but I can tell you that the Old Testament times were governed by different "rules" than the New Testament and beyond, to greatly simplify it.

Not that I agree genocide is ever moral, even IF God orders it, although my mom tells me I just don't understand the nature of God. Personally, I think she just doesn't understand right and wrong

[Kaak]

You continue to link homosexuality to child abuse

i didn't actually link them, i just consider them related in the fact that the person who is turned on by child pornos has no more choice as to what flips his lid than does a gay person. One sickens me, so does the other.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Kaak


i didn't actually link them, i just consider them related in the fact that the person who is turned on by child pornos has no more choice as to what flips his lid than does a gay person. One sickens me, so does the other.

What kind of stupid sh*t is that? Whatever goes on between two consenting adults is no one else's business. Unless you haven't noticed in paedophilia, one of the partners is abused and has no choice in the matter.

Your connections between homosexuality and paedophilia are worrying to show the least, and expose a great hole in your character and integrity