Palestinians destroy Israeli tank

[laurentius]

Alright, maybe so..err..you're propably right. But how about Israeli Defence forces? 10 schoolchildren injured in a air-raid? Oh, they were terrorists, right? And those 12 policeman killed today? Again, we must stop those damn terrorists , not. The Israeli army has killed more civilians, more security officials and now Sharon wants Arafat killed? Very humane and a true warrior for the good of the people!
I bet he has "egalite, fraternite, liberte" tattooed up in hes ass

[Goingonit]

Originally posted by laurentius
Alright, maybe so..err..you're propably right. But how about Israeli Defence forces? 10 schoolchildren injured in a air-raid? Oh, they were terrorists, right? And those 12 policeman killed today? Again, we must stop those damn terrorists , not. The Israeli army has killed more civilians, more security officials and now Sharon wants Arafat killed? Very humane and a true warrior for the good of the people!
I bet he has "egalite, fraternite, liberte" tattooed up in hes ass

"policemen" of a terrorist organization. And there are accidental civilian casualties; however, if you were a terrorist, wouldn't you hang out with schoolchildren where if you doe, so do they?

[laurentius]

Originally posted by Goingonit


"policemen" of a terrorist organization. And there are accidental civilian casualties; however, if you were a terrorist, wouldn't you hang out with schoolchildren where if you doe, so do they?

Since when has Police Dep. been a terrorist org?

Seriously, you can't approve civilian casualties in any situation. Otherwise you start to sound like our friend Mr. bin Laden...

[Roland]

"Would you care to compare the level of censorship in Austria with the level of censorship in the U.S. during any period in the last 100 years?"

Define "censorship".

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Roland
"Would you care to compare the level of censorship in Austria with the level of censorship in the U.S. during any period in the last 100 years?"

Define "censorship".

I would, but it's been cut out of my U.S. Department of Reeducation approved dictionary!

[ZoboZeWarrior]

Censureship isn't enough efficient. Brain washing is far better !

[Roland]

Originally posted by Sikander


I would, but it's been cut out of my U.S. Department of Reeducation approved dictionary!

Then... why do you know the word at all ? Seems you need at least one more Republican Convention...

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Roland
Then... why do you know the word at all ? Seems you need at least one more Republican Convention...

Actually there is perhaps something even more sinister afoot. I notice that Social Security is going to run dry about the time I, and many other people who know the 'C' word are set to retire. Perhaps the budget balances and we don't know it. Bush said he would never touch the Social Security trust fund, but he never said anything about not touching Social Security recipients.

[The diplomat]

I read that Sharon has approved a "new response" in reaction to the recent attacks. What could it be? Short of a full scale military response, it seems like Israel is already responding pretty strongly to the attacks.

[jugurtti]

Originally posted by laurentius
Alright, maybe so..err..you're propably right. But how about Israeli Defence forces? 10 schoolchildren injured in a air-raid? Oh, they were terrorists, right? And those 12 policeman killed today? Again, we must stop those damn terrorists , not.

That not nice, indeed, but it will happen as long as the idiot-terrorists keep bombing pizzerias and shoot random cars. Terrorism just cannot be accepted ever, and sometimes force must be used.

[Kyle]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
[q]IAnd yes, I respect Arafat more. He's a freedom fighter. It is easy to just cast off those in positions of weakness to be terrorists. That is what the British did with the Founding Fathers of the US. Arafat has been fighting for the freedom of an oppressed people, which makes him much better in my book that a General that slaughtered people that were in no way as strong as the country the general comes from.

Do you honestly believe that Imran? Arafat's people are the one's who killed the Israeli athletes in Munich, the ones who hijacked a cruise ship (singled out an American for execution and dumped him overboard), and now I just heard that a former (Romanian, I think it was) General accussed him of ordering the assasination of a US Ambassador.


If he kept his actions against Israeli military and politicians, then maybe he could be considered a "freedom fighter." He doesn't, thus he's a terrorist.

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Sikander
Would you care to compare the level of censorship in Austria with the level of censorship in the U.S. during any period in the last 100 years?

I would: Over the past 50 years, we had no censorship. Whatsoever.

Mark Twain has never been banned in the U.S., ...

Oh, yes. Some of his political writings have been banned. That´s why you have never heard of them, I guess. They are more strongly anti-US than anything Chomsky.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Comrade Tribune
Oh, yes. Some of his political writings have been banned.

Name one piece, with the requisite evidence of course.

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

Yes.

I want to see the whole truth and strive to reach it, regardless of whether i fail objectively or not.

You want to see a certain truth, and strive to reach it, regardless of the wholer truth.

Bullsh!t, you´re just as biased as I am. You just don´t want to admit it...

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Name one piece, with the requisite evidence of course.

Banned: Huckleberry Finn, TomSawyer, Eve´s Diary.

http://www.boondocksnet.com/twainwww/twain_banned.html

Even worse: He was unscrupulously censored by his literary executor:

http://www.boondocksnet.com/ai/twain/contested.html

"In the volumes of Twain's letters, essays and stories, notebooks, and autobiographical dictations published under Paine's tenure as literary executor, many references to the Philippine-American War and unflattering characterizations of American presidents and soldiers were stricken from the texts, often leaving no indication that the writings were inspired by the war. Paine's judgement and the interests of the "Harper Mark Twain property" did not require consistent removal of all references to the war, however, and the editorial choices Paine made at different times give us a glimpse of the changing attitudes about imperialism from the publication of Mark Twain: A Biography in 1912 to his edition of the notebooks in 1935.

Paine's official biography did not mention that Mark Twain was an officer of the Anti-Imperialist League but it did include several discussions of his anti-imperialist writings, including a short chapter on the Philippine-American War. Excerpts from a number of previously unpublished essays, stories, letters, and sketches were also included within the main text or appendices. Of all of Paine's work on Twain, the biography is the most forthright about the latter's anti-imperialist writings and activities. There are some glaring misinterpretations but no obvious signs of censorship.

Paine's two-volume edition of Mark Twain's Letters was published in 1917 and it provides the earliest clear example of censorship aimed at preserving the "traditional Mark Twain." Paine silently edited a letter Twain wrote on 24 January 1901, to his Hartford friend and pastor, Rev. Joseph H. Twichell. Fortunately, this letter survives intact in the Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library at Yale University. "I am going to stick close to my desk for a month, now," Twain wrote, "hoping to write a small book, full of playful and good-natured contempt for the lousy McKinley." Twichell knew what to expect from such a book. In a widely reported speech delivered earlier in the month, Twain described President McKinley as the man who sent U.S. troops to the Philippines "to fight with a disgraced musket under a polluted flag." After Paine's editing, the published version of this letter ends with Twain "hoping to write a small book."(23) Period. It seems safe to assume that readers of Mark Twain Letters, like readers of any renowned author's letters, would want to know what that "small book" was about, but "contempt for the lousy McKinley" did not fit Paine's image of "the traditional Mark Twain" that he was in the business of preserving."

If Twain was still among us, he would certainly voice his contempt for the lousy George Bush as well.