Canadian skaters totally screwed!!!!

[Flubber]

I'm a Canadian and biased but

1. as a layperson it was obvious the Canadians were flawless in a program they have done before in international competition and garnered top marks. Why would the same program done BETTER garner lower marks ?

2. The professional commentators were certain of the Canadian victory before the marks were announced. These are professional skaters who should have a clue about what is going on. I have never seen them be this emphatic about a result and be wrong and Canadians have come close to gold many times in the past in skating events with no outcry.

3. The reactions of Sale and pelltier themselves made it obvious they knew they had nailed the program and the look of suprise and shock on their faces at the marks was obvious and genuine. They KNEW they had won. They are experienced skaters that have competed for many years. Are we saying that the skaters themselves are wrong?? Did not everyone see the dejected demeanour of the Russians after they skated . . . they KNEW they had not skated well.

4. As I understand figure skating scoring, it is all about rankings. If the 2nd place in the short program wins the long program, they win the competition. They do not aggregate the marks so if the Canadians won the long program the gold was theirs.

5. Arguments about the greater difficulty just don't cut it . Doing slightly harder things badly does not qualify for higher marks. Consider the mens program where skaters who attempted and failed on a quad were marked much lower than skaters that cleanly completed a triple. To get credit for the harder element, you have to complete it successfully.


This is ice dance all over again.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Flubber
5. Arguments about the greater difficulty just don't cut it . Doing slightly harder things badly does not qualify for higher marks.

True, but doing easy things flawlessly doesn't cut it either. Apparently what killed the Canadians was their presentation. Boring, lackluster, killing time performance doesn't get you points. Also, they had ugly grey uniforms (and believe, that's part of presentation). They just weren't very interesting to watch, even if they did it well.

[Ming]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
True, but doing easy things flawlessly doesn't cut it either. Apparently what killed the Canadians was their presentation. Boring, lackluster, killing time performance doesn't get you points. Also, they had ugly grey uniforms (and believe, that's part of presentation). They just weren't very interesting to watch, even if they did it well.

I watched both pairs skate (when your daughter competes in the same sport, you can't avoid watching it) and I had the exact opposite reaction that you did. The Russian pair didn't even look graceful most of the time... it was almost painful to watch... and when they finished, the looks on their faces said it all. They knew they hadn't done their best.
On the other hand, the Canadians looked so good, and it surely wasn't boring, lackluster, or a killing time performance. Their confidence and perfection matched with their emotion made for a powerful performance....

But again... just one person's opinion (well... two, my daughter agrees with me)

[chequita guevara]

Like I said, I can't say anything about the Russians (except that they had a harder routine). I'm comparing the Canadians with the Chinese, who, despite a fall, had an amazing performance.

I have the misfortune of having a GF who simply adores figure skating, and thus I am forced to watch large quantities of this sport. Along the way, I've picked up on some of things judges consider.

I forget the name of the French skater several years ago, who was doing back and front flips on the ice. I was floored, I'd never seen this before, and despite her flawless performace, she failed to win the gold. Why, she wasn't skating as fast or as low as the other skaters, thus reducing her level of difficulty. Of course, it didn't help that she's Black in a sport that dislikes working class and minority (with the exception of Asians, now) skaters.

[blackice]

Originally posted by Ming


I watched both pairs skate (when your daughter competes in the same sport, you can't avoid watching it) and I had the exact opposite reaction that you did. The Russian pair didn't even look graceful most of the time... it was almost painful to watch... and when they finished, the looks on their faces said it all. They knew they hadn't done their best.
On the other hand, the Canadians looked so good, and it surely wasn't boring, lackluster, or a killing time performance. Their confidence and perfection matched with their emotion made for a powerful performance....

But again... just one person's opinion (well... two, my daughter agrees with me)

Just a wild guess but I would say from what I have read, seen, heard we are the majority of percentage world wide by far of the people who agree with THEY WERE SCREWED. The minority, by a mile seem to have chegitz guevara's opinion, a very small percentage.

I heard tonight on the news that the French judge said she was ordered by her government to vote Russian in exchange for the russians to vote France in the dance competition.

[Ming]

Well... it is a matter of opinion... and therefore, the need for judges. I just find it so interesting that two people could watch the exact same thing, and walk away with totally difference experiences...

[blackice]

Reaction was instantaneous. A poll put up on www.NBCOlympics.com and www.Olympics.com asking users who should have won the gold medal grew by the thousands as the minutes passed. By Wednesday at 2 p.m. MT, more than 307,000 users had voted with the Canadians holding a commanding 92 percent to 8 percent margin.

True it would appear in this case and in ALL polls etc. That the reality is 92 out of 100 saw the same thing a mere 8 saw something else...they could account for the eight toilets flushing when they were skating?

[Goingonit]

Results just in: 8% of people just like being contrary

[Peacemaker]

Come on what's the big fuc**** deal this is just fgure skating.

Let's put the Ruskies and the Canadians on the ice at the same time and let them fight it out in an all out out steel cage fight to the death. We need to teach these fags the true meaning of compition.

Ice skating won't be a real sport until they put defense into the game.

[DinoDoc]

This is the perfect solution.

Originally posted by Peacemaker
Let's put the Ruskies and the Canadians on the ice at the same time and let them fight it out in an all out out steel cage fight to the death. We need to teach these fags the true meaning of compition.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Peacemaker
We need to teach these fags the true meaning of compition.

One more comment like that one, and you will get a restriction!

[blackice]

Seems Peacemaker you simply do not understand the enormous amount of time, dedication, finesse and physical fitness involved in the sport...

[Peacemaker]

Originally posted by Ming


One more comment like that one, and you will get a restriction!

I sorry. Can you tell me the name of one male skater who is not a homosexual.

[The Vagabond]

The results of the poll are not surprising. There are much less Internet users in Russia than in North America. Besides, I doubt that Russian users use to frequent those particular sites.

As for the French judge, it looks very suspicious. Why would she ever confess to anything like that? Isn't it simply a canard?

[Asher]

Originally posted by The Vagabond
The results of the poll are not surprising. There are much less Internet users in Russia than in North America. Besides, I doubt that Russian users use to frequent those particular sites.

As for the French judge, it looks very suspicious. Why would she ever confess to anything like that? Isn't it simply a canard?

Certainly, all those Canadians voting on NBC's website made it so lopsided...

Your arguments are getting more and more lame.

And Peacemaker: Bend over, *****.