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  • #76
    Flower thats bull****. What is inhumane about punishing them for trying to kill us?

    Also, what the hell are we doing in guantanomo that violates geneva? There getting fed, get to talk, a sheltr over there head, and there not being beaten!? So there there is 0 wrong with what we are doing.


    Set examples? Ya...like in all the wars since WW2 our prisoners have been treated like complete ****!!!!! No matter how good we treat the other side. So dont give me that bull****!


    Kiss you blessed golden cow's, Bush's, ass when he gets the whole mother f***ing country blown to bits. I didn't vote for him.


    People like you get this country blown to bits.You *****, Moan about everything...there is nothing wrong with whats going on in guantanomo. 0.....nada.....zilch. So stop trying to find somting wrong, and turn it into a political sword as a reason to justify your dislike of our president and the war on terror.

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    • #77
      You seem to forget that what is and what can be are two very different things. Mob-mentality has lead to quite a few breaches in the fascade of restrait portrayed by a nation. I see the American blood-thirst as one of the most dangerous forms of mob-mentality to this date.
      "Maybe there's a god above, and all I ever learned from love... was how to shoot at someone who out-drew you. It's not a cry you can hear at night. It's not somebody who's seen the light. It's a cold and It's a broken hallelujah." ~ Cohen

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      • #78
        Originally posted by faded glory
        Flower thats bull****. What is inhumane about punishing them for trying to kill us? ...

        People like you get this country blown to bits.You *****, Moan about everything...there is nothing wrong with whats going on in guantanomo. 0.....nada.....zilch. So stop trying to find somting wrong, and turn it into a political sword as a reason to justify your dislike of our president and the war on terror.
        Punishment is different from revenge... all I'm saying is that we need to take a step back, stop believing everything we are told and remember that this nation is run by the richest few, which serve their own best interests, by the way.

        Act like a **** be treated like one.
        "Maybe there's a god above, and all I ever learned from love... was how to shoot at someone who out-drew you. It's not a cry you can hear at night. It's not somebody who's seen the light. It's a cold and It's a broken hallelujah." ~ Cohen

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        • #79
          Your a moron


          *looks outside*

          There is no lynchmobs and sure as hell no mobs demanding revenge...

          So please describe exacty, what the hell you are talking about!? (if you even know )

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          • #80
            Am I right in assuming that the people taken to Guantanamo are the real hardcore Al-Qaeda leadership people? And I assume that most of the Al-Qaeda/Taleban grunts have just been handed over to the Alliance?

            As most of them are not Afghan, I reckon they're probably better off in US hands than in Alliance hands (who are probably slightly faster in summary justice).

            I can't see any problems at all with the treatment. The whole sensory deprivation (ear muffs, blacked out goggles etc) is slightly disconcerting, but if that was only done for the trip and immediately after...

            The rest of the procedures are seem to be fairly usual for highrisk, max security prisons. I really don't see what all the fuss is about, they are (or could be) killers and should be treated as such. I wouldn't go as far as saying that the inhumanity of their organisations actions means that they don't deserve some basic human rights, but they shouldn't expect anymore.

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            • #81
              My point... which you you looked completely over... is that we need to continue to practice restaint, and open our eyes to the motives of our leaders. My other point is that President Bush could very well turn this entire thing into a Roman circus.
              "Maybe there's a god above, and all I ever learned from love... was how to shoot at someone who out-drew you. It's not a cry you can hear at night. It's not somebody who's seen the light. It's a cold and It's a broken hallelujah." ~ Cohen

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              • #82
                Originally posted by poison_flower


                Punishment is different from revenge..
                No it isnt..in essence, when a murderer goes to jail, it is a sort-of- state sanctioned punishment!


                . all I'm saying is that we need to take a step back, stop believing everything we are told and remember that this nation is run by the richest few, which sereve their own best interests, by the way.
                What are they telling us? I dont se Bill Gates, Ted Turner or Donald Trump saying anything? Or am I missin somthing!?



                The nation is run bye the richest few!!!!!!



                Suppose your going to now tell me that the top 1%, holds 90% of the wealth (Which is complete bull**** btw)

                Not that im sticking up for the miesers. But I dont scape-goat them! But Scape goating is alot easier huh?


                Act like a **** be treated like one.
                Ya and al-aqueda are little ****s that would slit your throat with a sharp rock if you came to close to that cage.

                There ****in murderer's....

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by faded glory
                  Your a moron


                  *looks outside*
                  By the way, your is not the same thing as you're... and I'm the moron.
                  "Maybe there's a god above, and all I ever learned from love... was how to shoot at someone who out-drew you. It's not a cry you can hear at night. It's not somebody who's seen the light. It's a cold and It's a broken hallelujah." ~ Cohen

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                  • #84
                    Punishment implies lack of malice. Revenge does not.

                    There are more rich people in the world than Bill Gates et. al. Take a look at Jonathan Kozol's, Amazing Grace, and then tell me that the rich don't have incredible influence over government.

                    Murderers should be punished. I fear, however, that American's only seek revenge.
                    "Maybe there's a god above, and all I ever learned from love... was how to shoot at someone who out-drew you. It's not a cry you can hear at night. It's not somebody who's seen the light. It's a cold and It's a broken hallelujah." ~ Cohen

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                    • #85
                      Murderers should be punished. I fear, however, that American's only seek revenge.
                      So that means we should release them all because some of us want revenge

                      Moreover....they arent innocent. Al-Queda members have one sole reasons: To kill people like you and me at any oppurtunity.





                      There are more rich people in the world than Bill Gates et. al. Take a look at Jonathan Kozol's, Amazing Grace, and then tell me that the rich don't have incredible influence over government.

                      Weanie scapegoating Like how the Nazi's and Bin Ladin Blamed the Jews for the same thing!

                      If youlive in a democracy, true influence is the vote. Plain and simple. Rich people only vote once. Ralph Nader didnt lose bcause he didnt have enough money. He lost because nobody liked him.

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                      • #86
                        If the USA was like the Romans, and if we were motivated by revenge, several middle eastern cities would vanish in mushroom clouds.

                        But we're not like the Romans. Or the Russians, come to that. So I suggest you explain what we're doign which violate their human rights.

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                        • #87
                          Three cheers for moral relativism.
                          It's not moral relativism. I actually believe in absolute morals. It's saying, for example, "The Holocaust was morally wrong, yet it would also be wrong for us to punish you for it, because it did not violate your laws and we have no moral authority to impose our beliefs and laws upon you."
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                            They are "unlawful combatants" - meaning they have no legal status or protections. The fact that they aren't covered under the Geneva Convention does not make them civilians, or any other class of person protected under international law.
                            What about the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Or did they waive those by going to war with america?
                            Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Faeelin
                              and if we were motivated by revenge,
                              *s******s*
                              Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
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                              • #90
                                "So that means we should release them all because some of us want revenge"

                                No, but we should examine our motives carefully.

                                "Weanie scapegoating Like how the Nazi's and Bin Ladin Blamed the Jews for the same thing!"

                                When a group of people happens to be at fault for systematic inequality is isn't scapegoating. I am simply laying blame where blame is due.

                                "If youlive in a democracy, true influence is the vote. Plain and simple. Rich people only vote once. Ralph Nader didnt lose bcause he didnt have enough money. He lost because nobody liked him."

                                The rich may only be able to vote once, but what choice do we have? All we have to choose from is a bunch of sniveling rich-ass opportunists.
                                "Maybe there's a god above, and all I ever learned from love... was how to shoot at someone who out-drew you. It's not a cry you can hear at night. It's not somebody who's seen the light. It's a cold and It's a broken hallelujah." ~ Cohen

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