William Cooper Killed By Government Agents

[Berzerker]

Asher -

Not comparable, I was just demonstrating how stupid threads like these are...taking things out of context and whatnot.

If you don't know the details spare us the spam.

You showed how stupid it is to offer a thread that you claim took things out of context by taking something out of context? Since you're ignorant of the context, how do you know it was taken out of context? And I was lamenting the death of a great American, not offering "spam". Obviously I do know some of the details since I posted the information I was given. Go away...

[KrazyHorse]

How is this any different from a judge ordering your home repossessed because you owe somebody $200 000 according to a private contract? Your home is an asset, and if you have bills you are unable to pay then it can be repossessed. Otherwise you could claim bankruptcy and yet retain all your stuff.

[Dr Strangelove]

Boy, some facts sure would taste real good right about now!

[Asher]

Originally posted by Berzerker
You showed how stupid it is to offer a thread that you claim took things out of context by taking something out of context? Since you're ignorant of the context, how do you know it was taken out of context? And I was lamenting the death of a great American, not offering "spam". Obviously I do know some of the details since I posted the information I was given. Go away...

It's just stupid, is all.

You have no links, no context, no evidence or details, and expect us to have a serious discussion about it?

Please.

[Berzerker]

Natan -

Hello Mr. McVeigh.

I see you have the same problem as Asher, can they teach logic or is that a god-given talent?

Sprayber -

It's people like you that cause these problems to begin with.

Oh right, it wasn't an out of control government supported by people like you, it's all the people who oppose giving government the power to murder people for refusing to hand over their property.

I'm not a big fan of the government by no means.

BS!

You get things changed by getting involved with the process not by stockpiling weapons and staring out the windows every so often afraid of the big bad government.

William Cooper was an author and radio host trying to change things. But all us anti-government types are to blame for not changing things I guess.

It's people like you that give the government all the reasons it wants to pass more and more laws. Your just a whiner. A little whiner.

Do you "whine" when you express your grievances with government? Save your hypocrisy for other hypocrites and save your insults for people within arm's reach.

When weapons are finally outlawed completely, it will be because of you and those like you.

And not because of the people who want to ban guns?

[Ted Striker]

You know, sometimes the only way to get criminals is to send the IRS after them.

Sooooo many crooks have been brought down through tax evasion because that was the only way to do it.

Berzerker,

Please provide a link to this story. I'm sure there are more details we did not get to see. Otherwise, this story is NOT credible.

Floyd,

What is your problem? Why do you hate the government so much? Are you trying to be different or something?

[Berzerker]

Krazyhorse -

How is this any different from a judge ordering your home repossessed because you owe somebody $200 000 according to a private contract?

Because you would owe someone, Mr Cooper did not owe you and me anything.

Your home is an asset, and if you have bills you are unable to pay then it can be repossessed. Otherwise you could claim bankruptcy and yet retain all your stuff.

Not when the tax man cometh. Well, I wouldn't be surprised if there are special laws for the politically connected to keep their stuff when it's the government claiming ownership.

Dr Strangelove -

Boy, some facts sure would taste real good right about now!

I have all the facts I need - they claimed he owed them money, they shot him. Anyone familiar with Mr Cooper knows he wouldn't shoot first if at all. But for you folks who already think legalized stealing is okay, why would you doubt the government's version of the incident?

Ted Stryker -

Please provide a link to this story. I'm sure there are more details we did not get to see. Otherwise, this story is NOT credible.

Hmm...a complaint about a lack of credibility coming from someone who just posted this?:

You know, sometimes the only way to get criminals is to send the IRS after them.

Sooooo many crooks have been brought down through tax evasion because that was the only way to do it.

So far, Mr Cooper has been compared with OBL, Tim McVeigh, a criminal, a crook ala Al Capone, and all by people complaining about "facts" not being posted? The information I have is what I posted, I saw a blurb about his death in some magazine.

I'd like to know exactly what I posted about his death (aside from my commentary) is out of context or unfactual/deceitful.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Because you would owe someone, Mr Cooper did not owe you and me anything

He didn't owe me anything. He owed you and every other resident of the United States (Back Taxes)/280million.

[Berzerker]

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/breaking/1106deputyshot06-ON.html

[Berzerker]

Krazyhorse -

He didn't owe me anything. He owed you and every other resident of the United States (Back Taxes)/280million.

Can you produce the contract upon which he agreed to owe us this money?

[uh Clem]

From Cooper's website:

It appears at this time to be totally unrelated to the disputes he had with the federal government. All we know at this time is that he was shot and killed by an Apache County Sheriff around 12:15 AM Tuesday November 6th, 2001 while serving of an arrest warrant on a local issue. A sheriff was also wounded.

Remain Calm! This is in no way a cause for action.

Do NOT listen to or spread undocumented and unconfirmed RUMORS! If it is not here it is not confirmed as fact. Updates will be posted here as they become available.

http://www.williamcooper.com/index.html

"It appears at this time to be totally unrelated to the disputes he had with the federal government." ???

[DinoDoc]

Anyone familiar with Mr Cooper knows he wouldn't shoot first if at all.

His involvment in the "Patriot movement" tends to cast doubt on that assertion, Berz.

[KrazyHorse]

DP

[KrazyHorse]

No. Can you produce the contract in which he agreed not to shoot random people? They're both prices of living under the protection of your government from foreign enemies and domestic criminals.

On a separate note, I wish they'd managed to kill him before he shot a cop twice in the head. He's an attempted-murdering ******* and got exactly what was coming to him. He owed money to the government of the United States of America (and by extension to every resident of the US), and the government has both a right and a duty to collect from him.

[Berzerker]

Dinodoc -

Anyone familiar with Mr Cooper knows he wouldn't shoot first if at all.

His involvment in the "Patriot movement" tends to cast doubt on that assertion, Berz

Did Randy Weaver's kid shoot first? His so-called "involvement" with the "Patriot movement" was limited to broadcasting and writing anti-government information, not shooting or bombing government people or buildings. According to the link I provided, he did shoot. Whether or not he shot first or the deputy was hit by his comrades is another matter.

Krazyhorse -

No.

No? No you cannot produce a contract upon which he agreed to pay/owe us money? Then don't give me this BS about him owing us money.

Can you produce the contract in which he agreed not to shoot random people?

Did he shoot random people? No, he may have shot someone trying to rob and/or kill him. You've already admitted you cannot produce a contract with his agreement to pay us money so these people were there to rob him, not enforce a non-existent contract.

They're both prices of living under the protection of your government from foreign enemies and domestic criminals.

If this was all our money was being spent on, he might have been paying taxes all along. My familiarity with him leads me to believe he would have been quite happy to pay the taxes required for these government functions.

On a separate note, I wish they'd managed to kill him before he shot a cop twice in the head. He's an attempted-murdering ******* and got exactly what was coming to him.

Even if they shot first? Apparently the facts are not as important as you would have us believe. I already know you think stealing is okay when it's the "government" doing the stealing so defending oneself from these thieves wouldn't matter.

He owed money to the government of the United States of America (and by extension to every resident of the US), and the government has both a right and a duty to collect from him.

But you already admitted you cannot produce any contract, so what you're endorsing here is legalized armed robbery and murder.