Israel Kills Some More Children, Sharon Impressed At It

[vlad]

Well no one has yet to post a link to the story so again we have no idea what really happened. If the Israeli attack had a mishap and civillians were killed that is a terrible thing. If the attack saved potentially 20 jewish civillians then the risk was certainly worth it to them. It is a war I don't know how anyone can mistake it for anything else and in wars casulties happen. I think the big difference here is if Israel kills children its a mistake and they certainly do not intend it. If a Palestinian bomber kills children its considered a success. There is simply no room in the world for terrorism.

Ecthelion: I agree its hard for a 2 year old to throw rocks, but pretty common for a 13 year old
Now relax or I will produce more turds

[Joe R. Golowka]

Stupid Israelis should stop killing children. If they'd get off the Palestian's land this whole thing couldv'e been solved long ago.

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by Infatuation




I don't care for your petty insults. When you have the brainpower to rebut my facts, come back to this thread. Until then, goodbye.

*waves*

Your facts? My ass. You posted a bull**** fabrication of your little pointed head.
The facts were posted, but if need the facts posted again, Poindexter...

HEBRON, West Bank (CNN) -- Israeli combat helicopters fired two missiles at a car in Hebron Monday, leaving two Palestinian children dead and seven other people wounded.

The Palestine Red Crescent Society said the two children killed were a 16-year-old boy and another child between the ages of 5 and 7. Three of the wounded were children, the group said.

Also among those hurt was Mohammed Ayub Sider, a leader of Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the Red Crescent said. His wounds were described as moderate.

Israel Radio described the strike as an assassination attempt against an Islamic Jihad militant, while the Israel Defense Forces said the intended target of the attack was Sider, who it described as a senior member of Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

The Palestinian security sources said there were five people in the car. A number of those wounded were said to be bystanders.

A suicide bombing in the Israeli city of Haifa injured 29 people, and four Palestinian police officers were killed by Israeli soldiers.

An IDF spokesman said the IDF "makes every effort to prevent the loss of life of innocent civilians and deeply regrets the loss of life."

The IDF spokesman said Sider was in charge of several cells preparing suicide bombs in Israel. The IDF accused Sider of being behind two shooting incidents and claimed he was planning a terror attack at Be'er Sheva and a kidnapping of an Israeli soldier at Hebron.

Palestinian Islamic Jihad is a militant group dedicated to the creation of an Islamic Palestinian state and the destruction of Israel. Callers claiming to represent the Islamic Jihad have claimed responsibility for some of the wave of suicide bombings that began nine days ago.


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What else Infatuation? Does your dad need to know where to buy a large burlap bag?
I'll donate one.

[Goingonit]

Surprising enough, Mr. Golowka seems to be the webmaster of the Marxist-Humanist Forum Homepage. http://struggle.net/mhf/index.htm

Learn somehing new every day.

[KrazyHorse]

Damn. I knew there was something I liked about him.

[Ted Striker]

Infatuation Trolls, Nobody is impressed at it

[Dr Strangelove]

OK, so everyone who is in favor of declaring Israel and Palestine a UN mandate and sending one million NATO and UN troops into the area to impose order please stand up now and say: "ME, ME, Oh please send me in."

Germans are exempt. D**n, some people have all the luck! You know, looking at the problem from a fifty years later prospective, maybe we shouldn't have encouraged the FRG to renounce war. Instead, we shpuld have punished them by making them permanent UN mercenaries, condemned for all time to fight all over the world in the name of peace and justice. Why didn't we think of that?

[KrazyHorse]

OK, so everyone who is in favor of declaring Israel and Palestine a UN mandate and sending one million NATO and UN troops into the area to impose order please stand up now and say: "ME, ME, Oh please send me in."

I can think of worse things to die for.

[Eli]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
OK, so everyone who is in favor of declaring Israel and Palestine a UN mandate and sending one million NATO and UN troops into the area to impose order please stand up now and say: "ME, ME, Oh please send me in."

Dont foget to bring one million body bags.

[Rogan Josh]

A question for those who support this:

If you knew beforehand that two children would die in the attack, would you still have wanted to go ahead with it?

[Eli]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
A question for those who support this:

If you knew beforehand that two children would die in the attack, would you still have wanted to go ahead with it?

Two cases :
A) The teract that this man is part of is not supposed to happen in the near future, or this is a retaliation for previous teracts - no.
B) Information that says that either this man is stopped now, or he will succeed in his teract - yes, even if there is a whole kindergarden there.

[Rogan Josh]

Originally posted by Eli
B) Information that says that either this man is stopped now, or he will succeed in his teract - yes, even if there is a whole kindergarden there.

So was B) applicable here? How would you balance it? I mean, if you just want to preserve as many innocent lives as possible, you would not want to kill a whole kindergarten to take out the suicide bomber who only succeeded in killing himself the other day. How do you know how many people the terrorist will kill in the furture? Or is this not a consideration and he should be killed as a point of principle, regardless of innocent lives being lost?

[Eli]

http://go.ynet.co.il/arafat/

Play with the + and - buttons.

[Eli]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh
So was B) applicable here?

From what I understand, no. Because as someone said, he could be killed few minutes later not in the middle of a busy intersection.

How would you balance it? I mean, if you just want to preserve as many innocent lives as possible, you would not want to kill a whole kindergarten to take out the suicide bomber who only succeeded in killing himself the other day.

The problem is that you dont know whether he will "succeed" or not. So if this is the last opportunity to kill him, it should be done. We just cant take the risk.

In general, I trust the security services to do their job. While i'm sure that some of them wont mind seeing few more dead Palestinian children, I believe that as a whole they are working right. Also, every assasination needs to be approved by the Kitchen Cabinet(PM, Foreign Minister, Security Minister) and I dont think that on this level people will not consider all the options.

[Defiant]

Natan,
I wasn't necessarily saying they should use missiles later, a shot to the back of the head, execution could be done and it would have full support from all allied nations. You don't always have to use a hammer when a nail will work.

Eli,
Your logic, sometimes really baffles me, under your scenario then the USA should point her nukes at Israel, Jordan, Palestine, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi, Iran, and the rest in the Middle East and make you guys one big sheet of glass, no more school children, but guess what, no more terrorists either, end of story, America is now safe.