Traitor American Caught Fighting for Jello-Back Taliban

[Jeff George]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


This is not war but police action, rather. They call it to root out a government that needs to be rooted out.

Therefore this man, who looks like Charles Manson, is guilty of nothing.

It is called Police Action, and he did not commit any crime.

He is guilty of crimes against the civilians of Afghanistan.

[Dis]

well guess what? my point was not moronic, because I am right.

this guy is going to be sent back to the U.S. with a slap on the wrists. His family will just claim he was brainwashed.

[drake]

The only brain that should be washed, is his brains, off the walls after we shoot him

Why don't we let all the other "brainwashed" afghanis go as well? They let someone like this go, just because he is american and you compromise a lot of integrity! He doesn't desrve anything more than any other taliban soldier.

No real comment on this, as it means very little...but its a small peek at public opinion (even if it is from "biased" cnn):

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Dissident
my point was not moronic,

Yes, it was. Don't worry though. It is par for the course for you.

because I am right.

Yes you are and let me tell you why. He was an active part of the Taliban unit that fired on NA & US forces at the Mazar e sharif prison riot. Now how does that qualify as never actually fight the US.

His family will just claim he was brainwashed.

Too late.

[Dis]

dp

[Dis]

how do you know he actually fired on allied forces in that battle? Were you there.

You know nothing. Yet you claim other people are moronic.

I can only go by this guys word. And in the article I read last night he said he did not fire on anyone during the uprising. He was hiding in the basement area for 7 days with a wounded leg, when the area was flooded and the survivors were flushed out. This guy spent a week among dead bodies down there. He was hiding like a little rat, he was attacking no one.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Dissident
I can only go by this guys word.

That's why I called you a moron. Imagine believing a criminal, of all things, trying to save his own skin.

[drake]

A soldier is a soldier. Why try blurring the lines? If he didnt want to be a part of it, he shouldnt have been there. He made a choice, and now must deal with the consequences of his choice.

A pow gets the same treatment whether he killed 100 of the conquering force or 0. Don't do the crime if you cant do the time.

[Dis]

yes but did he have a choice

many of you are forgetting he joined the Taliban prior to Sep11. Do you think they would let him desert the military? We don't even allow that in the U.S. Desertion is a serious crime.

Yes he supported Sept 11. But I heard guys in bars here in the U.S. say the same thing. They said they didn't care about the rich people in the WTC, and he was glad they were dead. Shall we try him for treason as well?

[drake]

He envied the taliban and their strict islamic beliefs. He sought them out. You can be damn sure they werent out recruiting white americans!

Yes, it was his choice and his choice alone. He's guilty by association. Anyone in the taliban is.

As far as people that would say that anyone deserved to die on 911 dont deserve to be tried for treason because they werent in afghanistan, carrying a machine gun, siding with the enemy

They do however, probably need a good ass kicking. Boy, if I ever heard someone say something like that in public

[Saint Marcus]

Just put him in prison as a POW, and then later sentence him for life or something. Killing him would be an act of barbarism, so just lock him up and throw away the key and be done with it.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Lonestar -

If we are to charge and convict a US citizen of treason, they have to be convicted of waging war against us - the Congress never declared war.

That isn't relavent. If it were, spies during the cold war couldn't have been tried for treason.

[KrazyHorse]

Which they weren't, IIRC.

[MOBIUS]

What people seem to be missing here is that he joined the Taliban way back in May, which is 4 months before 11-9...

Consequently I don't think he was guilty of committing a treasonous act per se, especially considering the Taliban were receiving US aid and were in negotiations over the oil pipeline etc...

Now if he'd joined as a direct result of 11-9 that would be a different matter indeed, as he would be responding directly to an attack on the US.

Add to that the fact that he has effectively been brainwashed from spending time at Madrassas in Pakistan, I think what we have here is the case of 'Patty Hearst Syndrome'.

He didn't declare war on the US - the US declared war on him!

Finally, while I abhor and condemn the attacks on the WTC, I would say they were similar to in their effect as say Dresden or Hiroshima where tens of thousands of civilians were incinerated...

So if a person can condone and support those attacks, I cannot see how they can turn round and cry foul for the 11-9 attacks.

[Ted Striker]

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