Stalin monument to be built??

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Japher


Colonization still has a lot to do with the wars of today.. Lets just blame the French and be done with it.

You are right.

I'm sorry for blaming you Chegitz. I should of blamed the French. I blame the French this morning because I burned some toast.

[laurentius]

Che, you are now officially declared JAIS, Just Another Insane Stalinist

The analogies Che uses are plain ridiculous. He just doesnt get the fact that if we wouldnt have refused to take part in the siege of Leningrad, the city would not event exist today.

[Japher]

I blame the French this morning because I burned some toast.

Burnt toast, aka French Toast

[Japher]

Or you can blame Truman for not letting ol' Patton storm on Russia like he wanted to. Everyone is just as fine pinning everything on the Americans as they are to blame the French.

[Gangerolf]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


As I said, they had a legitmate cause, but that doesn't mean that they didn't take part in starving 670,000 people to death. What he's trying to do is deny they had any responsibility for it. That would be like saying that the United States had no responsibility in the dropping of the atomic bombs on Japan, since they attacked us first. The fact is, Finland helped starve Leningrad, whether or not they had a legititimate cause for war.

OK I see your point. It was a very small part though. The Finns even refused to join the siege of Leningrad. And it was justified, just like most people would say droepping the atomic bombs was justified.

But of course if anyone is to blame it's Stalin and that funny-looking Austrian dude.

[Giancarlo]

Okay I had it!

I blame the French for being French.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by laurentius
Che, you are now officially declared JAIS, Just Another Insane Stalinist

You Finns just can't admit you were allies to the worst regime in history and aided the Nazis in starving 670,000 people to death.

[Gangerolf]

Do they have a Gorbie monument, BTW?

[laurentius]

The analogies Che uses are plain ridiculous. He just doesnt get the fact that if we wouldnt have refused to take part in the siege of Leningrad, the city would not event exist today.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Gangerolf
The Finns even refused to join the siege of Leningrad.

That's not really true. The Finns didn't bombard Leningrad, but they took part in the seige simply by cutting it off. You don't have to assault or bomb a city to lay siege. You can simply starve it into submission.

[laurentius]

Its like blaming Shindler for not saving every jew, but just some.

[laurentius]

perhaps they shouldnt have ****ed with us in the first place.

then again russians have always been dumbasees as we know

[Gangerolf]

Che if they cut off the city they only did so by taking back their own land.

(I was *this* close to writing that in ALL CAPS.)

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by laurentius
The analogies Che uses are plain ridiculous. He just doesnt get the fact that if we wouldnt have refused to take part in the siege of Leningrad, the city would not event exist today.

I'm not using an anaology. I'm stating the historical facts.

Let's look at them, okay?

The Nazis did not, by themselves, cut Leningrad off from the USSR.

In the North, Leningrad was cut off by Finnish armies. On the far side of Lake Ladoga, Leningrad was cut off by Finnish armies.

As a result of being cut off by Germans and Finnish armies, 670,000 people in Leningrad starved to death.

You claim you aren't responsible for this.

Your claim is ridiculous.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Gangerolf
Che if they cut off the city they only did so by taking back their own land.

(I was *this* close to writing that in ALL CAPS.)

Irrelevent.

BTW, look at the map on page two of this thread. You will note that the Finns did more than just take back their own land, but invaded East Karelia as well.