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  • #91
    Originally posted by Q Cubed
    Here's the other reason, even though I'm not impressed with the Mac Mini's specs, why I don't mind it as much.

    I've always been the one to trash iMacs and other all-in-one models. At least Apple has finally come out with a very basic system that is modular, which was one key problem I had.

    Unfortunately, it still fails the upgradeability requirement, which the Mini/Micro-ATX boards meet (Nano-ITX doesn't really, as of yet...).
    But there is a big damn problem here (pardon my harshness). Is the Mini Mac useful for the budget user? No it is not. Next case.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #92
      Of course you ask a blanket and misleading question that is somewhat to the side of what we have been arguing about.

      That doesn't change anything. We are talking about it as a music player. Of course Thurrott is going to say that since his big beef is that it doesn't support third party services.

      As he writes:

      I do believe that Microsoft tried to make WMP 10 as simple as iTunes, though it hasn't quite met that goal. On the other hand, WMP 10's primary advantage over iTunes--and it's a big one--is that it's extensible by third party services, and can host those services.


      Ergo, insofar as it's a music player it tried to copy itunes and failed. Whatever you think of the other options that is a fact, and that is what is at issue here.


      As he says in the original review:

      Today, Apple's iTunes is the simplest, most elegant media player available for any platform, and the release of WMP 10 doesn't change that.


      Seems like he thinks itunes is a better media player there. Are you telling me he is contradicting himself now?

      Perhaps he's changed his mind since the review. Doesn't change the fact that this is what he said.
      Only feebs vote.

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      • #93
        You're foolish at best. Semprons have more cache and run at better speeds. They are basically Athlon XPs but better. Celerons are horrid.

        Semprons are about as good as Durons. Which is to say, worthless. I won't disagree with you on the horribleness of Celerons, though.

        No it is not. It can't be. Why? It isn't useful. Again Apple forgets what the word "useful" means.

        Do yourself a favor and divorce PPC from Apple in your mind. Please. Because PPC can be useful, and indeed, two of the next three consoles will be using the PPC platform, as well as several servers (including many that IBM makes). Furthermore, Genesi's Pegasos platform is also PPC-based, and has a lot of potential utility--most importantly, that of being a PPC workstation alternative to Apple. PPC is neither a bad nor a useless chip architecture.

        But there is a big damn problem here (pardon my harshness). Is the Mini Mac useful for the budget user? No it is not. Next case.


        I never said it was useful for the budget user. I also never said it was something I'd buy, and I also never said I liked it on an individual basis. Hell, since you obviously don't remember, I've consistently been the one railing against non-expandable/upgradable computing machines, with a particular antipathy towards all-in-one boxes. If you read my comments again, you'll see that I mention only one situation in which the Mac Mini might be useful, and I myself state that I'm unconvinced at hits utility because of its price/performance ratio.

        Dude, you're arguing against me, when, quite frankly, we're pretty much on the same side... Oi, Fez, you're almost as bad as Mr Nice Guy. At least you don't rant non-sensically about God, and I thank Him that you aren't a Mac fanboi, too.
        B♭3

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        • #94
          I do believe that Microsoft tried to make WMP 10 as simple as iTunes, though it hasn't quite met that goal. On the other hand, WMP 10's primary advantage over iTunes--and it's a big one--is that it's extensible by third party services, and can host those services.


          Ergo, insofar as it's a music player it tried to copy itunes and failed. Whatever you think of the other options that is a fact, and that is what is at issue here.


          He doesn't even suggest that WMP tried to copy iTunes... merely that they sought to make WMP as easy and simple to use as iTunes.

          You're arguing, however, that making things "easier to use" is copying Apple... which is a bizarre claim to make.
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          • #95
            He doesn't even suggest that WMP tried to copy iTunes... merely that they sought to make WMP as easy and simple to use as iTunes.


            Read the rest of the original articles. Several itunes features now appear in WMP. He even says that one's first look will make you think that itunes had been melded with WMP 9. That would be a bizarre thing to say if you weren't stating that WMP had been made "itunes-like".
            Only feebs vote.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Q Cubed
              You're foolish at best. Semprons have more cache and run at better speeds. They are basically Athlon XPs but better. Celerons are horrid.

              Semprons are about as good as Durons. Which is to say, worthless. I won't disagree with you on the horribleness of Celerons, though.
              Apparently somebody doesn't read reviews.

              Please. Because PPC can be useful, and indeed, two of the next three consoles will be using the PPC platform, as well as several servers (including many that IBM makes). Furthermore, Genesi's Pegasos platform is also PPC-based, and has a lot of potential utility--most importantly, that of being a PPC workstation alternative to Apple. PPC is neither a bad nor a useless chip architecture.
              Nope. Nope. Nope. Anything not AMD based is crap for me. No disputes about that. I will not change my mind.

              Dude, you're arguing against me, when, quite frankly, we're pretty much on the same side... Oi, Fez, you're almost as bad as Mr Nice Guy. At least you don't rant non-sensically about God, and I thank Him that you aren't a Mac fanboi, too.
              MNG is a mac fanboy.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #97
                Read the rest of the original articles. Several itunes features now appear in WMP.

                I haven't read the articles, admittedly, so I can't really comment on those; but the quote you chose, in my opinion, doesn't support your claim.

                He even says that one's first look will make you think that itunes had been melded with WMP 9. That would be a bizarre thing to say if you weren't stating that WMP had been made "itunes-like".

                Frankly, I don't see the resemblance...
                Maybe it's the small fact that WMP has that very useful Stop button and iTunes doesn't, or the fact that iTunes has a very visible Burn button whereas WMP does't... not to mention the color scheme, button/feature placement differences...
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                • #98
                  SUF

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                    SUF
                    SUK SUK SUK SUK
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #100
                      Nope. Nope. Nope. Anything not AMD based is crap for me. No disputes about that. I will not change my mind.

                      Ah, now I see.
                      {Fez, Giancarlo} == AMD Fanboi

                      MNG is a mac fanboy.


                      Well, at least we're in agreement about this...
                      B♭3

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                      • #101
                        Call me by my proper name.. Fanboi.. who spells boy with an i?
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • #102
                          Call me by my proper name.. Fanboi.. who spells boy with an i?

                          Okay, Fanboi.

                          It's somewhat derogatory to be called a Fanboi in the first place. Adding the i at the end makes it even worse... 'cause being a fanboi's as stupid as that Anvil song, Sk8r Boi or whatever it's called.
                          B♭3

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                          • #103
                            Originally posted by Q Cubed
                            Call me by my proper name.. Fanboi.. who spells boy with an i?

                            Okay, Fanboi.

                            It's somewhat derogatory to be called a Fanboi in the first place. Adding the i at the end makes it even worse... 'cause being a fanboi's as stupid as that Anvil song, Sk8r Boi or whatever it's called.
                            Actually, that sentence was meant to be split. My proper name is Giancarlo.

                            Fanboi is just silly. And quite rude.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • #104
                              Actually, that sentence was meant to be split. My proper name is Giancarlo.

                              I know, Fanboi. It's just that the way you wrote it is ambiguous enough that my interpretation of it is quite funny. Besides, until you wrote that, I did call you occasionally by Giancarlo...

                              Fanboi is just silly. And quite rude.

                              ...

                              But...

                              That's what you are... an AMD fanboi, Fanboi...
                              B♭3

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                              • #105
                                Originally posted by Q Cubed
                                Actually, that sentence was meant to be split. My proper name is Giancarlo.

                                I know, Fanboi. It's just that the way you wrote it is ambiguous enough that my interpretation of it is quite funny.
                                It wasn't meant to be funny.

                                But...

                                That's what you are... an AMD fanboi, Fanboi...
                                Shut up, you. I'm a sexy boi..
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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