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  • #91
    Originally posted by Stefu
    There was no one moment of change but a gradual conclusion over recent months for Flew, a spry man who still does not believe in an afterlife.

    PWND
    If it takes a couple of months for him to have a change of heart on the subject of god, how long will it take for him to suddenly believe in an afterlife.

    At any rate, a Deist does not believe in the hand of god in this universe. If Flew suggests that the complexity of life is caused by a super intelligence, it can only be an interventionist god.
    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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    • #92
      I just realized that, by mistake, I didn't post the entire article on poly. My bad.

      It has been fixed, though. Check the first post.
      HAVE A DAY.
      <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
      "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
      For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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      • #93
        Then he believes in a god rather than a God?

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        • #94
          A god rather than the Judeo-Christianity God.
          (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
          (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
          (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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          • #95
            So he still doen't know who to worship? He's still going to burn in hell then isn't he?!! ;O)

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            • #96
              Carrier assured atheists that Flew accepts only a "minimal God" and believes in no afterlife.
              This totally puts a certain argument against Flew to rest.
              HAVE A DAY.
              <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
              "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
              For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy


                This totally puts a certain argument against Flew to rest.
                Indeed! We have a quote from someone who purports to (perhaps) know the mind of a senile old philiospher.

                Either way, conciously or subconciously, Flews is running scared!

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by reds4ever


                  Indeed! We have a quote from someone who purports to (perhaps) know the mind of a senile old philiospher.

                  Either way, conciously or subconciously, Flews is running scared!
                  So what are you trying to say? That just because the guy now believes in God that makes him senile?

                  There are young that believe in God, like myself (25), but that doesn't make them senile.
                  HAVE A DAY.
                  <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                  "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                  For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                  • #99
                    One distinctive feature of us atheists is we aren't sheep. We don't blindly listen to "authority," we make our own decisions based on logic and rational thinking. We don't have a holy book we hold sacred, that we interpret every word of it literally.
                    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                    • #100
                      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                      Maybe he's fearing the reaper. Sagan died an atheist. I probably will too.
                      Comparing yourself to Carl Sagan are we now Che? I'll be blunt with you. I knew Carl Sagan and frankly you're not............................................... .................................................. .................................................. ....................................... that rich!
                      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                      • #101
                        Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                        We have experience of the dinosaurs.
                        We do? Godzilla doesn't count neither do bones.

                        ACK!
                        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                        • #102
                          Never could understand the faith in God or certainty God doesn't exist. How many atheists really looked for evidence of God instead of dismissing the notion because of silly sounding myths that may be based on something else that isn't silly?

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                          • #103
                            Originally posted by Berzerker
                            How many atheists really looked for evidence of God ?
                            Such as?


                            Revelation doesn't require evidence or fact, just faith. The kind of evidence, standard of proofs and thinking that is required to establish, say continental drift as fact, isn't necessary or desirable when it comes to proving items of faith such as transsubstantiation or the existence of any god.
                            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                            ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                            • #104
                              Originally posted by Berzerker
                              Never could understand the faith in God or certainty God doesn't exist.
                              Is the notion of god less silly than elves dancing on electrons, an invisible purple with pink polka dot unicorn, or an unseen, noncorporeal dog that follows you around?
                              (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                              (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                              (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                              • #105
                                Originally posted by Urban Ranger

                                ... an invisible purple with pink polka dot unicorn, or an unseen, noncorporeal dog that follows you around?
                                Are you keeping track of my familiars ?
                                Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                                ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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