Bush: Pakistan is a Democracy

[Az]

Democracy>Dictatorship>Fundies.

[PLATO]

Democracy is the most preferred system of government. However, the question remains...What does the world do when a democratically elected government turns violence outward? Many people have condemned the US for actions in the ME. It is the action of a democratically elected government. Many people have supported some European efforts to oppose these actions. Why should a state such as Pakistan be any different? If a democratically elected government would turn violent against its neighbors, then you would think that the same people would support a different kind of government there. Or is this another example of the US double standard?

[child of Thor]

sometimes dont you just get the feeling it could all just be a cruel experiment to test us? Or is our world controlled by Monty Python?

I love politicians, especially W

[Straybow]

That's why Bush is dangerous for America, because he increasingly delegitimizes American power.

Moronic statement. Bush went through the UN to legitimize US action. Certain countries said, in essence, "We agree on the facts, we just don't want the US to do anything about it."

Once the "facts" (as understood at the time) were revealed to be inaccurate the US is blamed for taking Saddam too seriously. Now the truth comes out that the other countries were on the take, profitting from Saddam's kickbacks.

So who is more "legitimate," the corrupt or the preemptive?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by PLATO
Democracy is the most preferred system of government. However, the question remains...What does the world do when a democratically elected government turns violence outward? Many people have condemned the US for actions in the ME. It is the action of a democratically elected government. Many people have supported some European efforts to oppose these actions. Why should a state such as Pakistan be any different? If a democratically elected government would turn violent against its neighbors, then you would think that the same people would support a different kind of government there. Or is this another example of the US double standard?

Selective democracy
Real democracy

[Whaleboy]

Democracy

[Ramo]

If a democratically elected government would turn violent against its neighbors, then you would think that the same people would support a different kind of government there.

Exactly, what are you referring to? The Sharif gov't avoided war with India, and this was one of the reasons why Musharraf was able to seize power. In fact Indo-Pak relations came to a head again with the attack on the Indian Parliament in December of 2001, and only cooled down due to pressure exerted by us after 9/11. It's likely that the Sharif gov't (or a Bhutto gov't, etc.) would've acted similarly to the Musharraf gov't post 9/11.

[Shogun Gunner]

Originally posted by Ramo

It's likely that the Sharif gov't (or a Bhutto gov't, etc.) would've acted similarly to the Musharraf gov't post 9/11.

Undoubtedly, especially considering the sweet deal we must be offerring Pakistan for their cooperation. Don't think Musharraf is doing this gratis. He's taking some big risks, he's going to make it worth his while.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Straybow

That's why Bush is dangerous for America, because he increasingly delegitimizes American power.

Moronic statement. Bush went through the UN to legitimize US action. Certain countries said, in essence, "We agree on the facts, we just don't want the US to do anything about it."

Once the "facts" (as understood at the time) were revealed to be inaccurate the US is blamed for taking Saddam too seriously. Now the truth comes out that the other countries were on the take, profitting from Saddam's kickbacks.

So who is more "legitimate," the corrupt or the preemptive?

"The corrupt", becasue they had Law on their side.

that was easy.

[Alexander's Horse]

The trouble with this emphasis on democracy and freedom is some countries would go for an Iran style theocracy if they had a really free vote.

[Berzerker]

Democracy is the most preferred system of government.

Majority rule is preferred by the majority? And dictatorships are preferred by dictators...

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by GePap
"The corrupt", becasue they had Law on their side.

That's actually an iffy point given that we have already established that the UN isn't necessary to legitimize armed action against other states taken without it's approval.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Hey, Imran, I like how you presume to tell us that you know what's good for Pakistan better than does the population of Pakistan.

You can't criticize America for selecting Bush then.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
You can't criticize America for selecting Bush then.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


You can't criticize America for selecting Bush then.

Too bad you can't see the difference between criticising a politician/saying he was a bad choice and claiming that the choice should be taken away from the public because you disagree with the result.

Feel free to join the discussion when you manage to do so, little boy.